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  1. Mid level picks. Cheap signings, never trading for top talent, being safe. This all leads to good regular season teams. But when it's your studs vs their studs, the Twins continually fall short. At some point they need to identify guys that can get it done in the postseason.
  2. I like what you are getting at. I agree with almost all of it. It would be nice though to win the playoffs ever. That part is the last thing that needs to come together. Also, Jack Morris cannot be argued against by anyone in being the best FA Twins signing. I don't know if you recall, but he pitched the most important and best game in baseball history. Literally a 10 inning gem that hasn't and won't be closed to replicated ever. I LOVE Cruz, but that one game alone makes him the best FA signing in Twins history.
  3. Kepler, Buxton, Cave. Anyone that plays outfield for the Twins has done worse than he has at the plate. Much worse in fact Buxton hasn't been on the field and still can't hit, flat out. Eddie is also 2nd on the team in RBIs, 3rd in HRs, and 2nd in OPS among our starters. I get it. But a few games isn't enough to make me want to just move on. I get where you are coming from, but I just keep paying him in arbitration and ride it till we don't have him under team control. Platoon him if you must with younger players.
  4. I love the runner on 2nd rule as well. This is what they do in the fastpitch softball world. My daughter plays travel ball so I have seen alot of them. Makes extra innings much more fun.
  5. No, I mean if you are going to make trades, etc., wait until the offseason after we see how the rest of this year goes. As far as bringing guys up. If the Twins think they will help more than what we have right now, then I'm totally fine with it. Or if the team feels they have a real shot at doing some playoff damage, then fine start the clock on a few of them. I'd have to see more from the team than I have lately though in order to make that decision. Right now, they are looking like one and dones again.
  6. I'm with you. Normally I hate this kind of inaction and when people say getting players back from the injured list is as good as a trade, etc. However, this year, I didn't see anyone worth going after. We also don't even really know what we have in this team as there haven't been many games played and we have been hit with the injury bug so bad. Let the guys come back, let it play out and lets see what we have going into the offseason.
  7. You can't? Have you followed this club for long? That said, I don't think this was the year to go all in. The team is not playing well. They don't have it this season. Last year was their chance. They were playing great, getting offense we have never seen in Twins territory. But we needed to hang onto prospects that are either hurt all the time or aren't making a difference yet. Even though we have been told how great they are over and over. Pitching would have been nice to have last year. This year, I don't think it is going to matter as alot of guys are coming back down to earth at the plate.
  8. Call them missteps when they sign the wrong players that are old. So far, the signing of Nelson Cruz last year was the best in baseball. He was fantastic. Donaldson is the other one. He was studly last year and likely is again for another few seasons. The rest of that list is low risk IMO. They aren't paying them much and they are on short term deals. Besides that, they are players that aren't what I would call "main" players they are counting on anyway. If they bomb out, DFA and move on. They are basically place holders with experience that may or may not work out.
  9. You're definitely a one way is the only way type of guy. Not every team's situation is the same. You can post about those generalizations on and on and it means nothing as it pertains to this current Twins club. Look at the Twins roster right now. I am certain that their top performers are very similar to your numbers you posted there. Most of our guys are home grown too. Always have been. Lots that were drafted, signed internationally, traded for as prospects, etc. It's OK to take a chance once in awhile and give up 1 or 2 top 10 guys. Do you trade from your system all the time? NO, it's not good practice. But to balance out and fill holes, it is acceptable IMO.
  10. What happens when your system is out of balance? Meaning, too many position players and not enough pitchers? What about when your ML lineup is all young, controllable and producing? Do we hang onto those prospects and just let them sit in the minors? Do we trade the guys on the MLB roster? When you are in dire need of pitching like this team is, I think it is imperative to trade from your position of strength to shore up a weakness.
  11. Right. I am with you. And Synergaard is just a name I threw out. I want one of those types of pitchers. Whether they can be had now, later or never is the question. I do however think that with as many position player prospects and young guys we have around, it wouldn't hurt to move 1-2 of them in order to get this type of player in here.
  12. I'm not sure it's that at all. I think when assessing those guys you named, there probably just isn't that #1-2 potential in any of them. Flat out the Twins just missed on pitching in quite a few drafts in a row plus they didn't really develop a whole ton of high end guys. What they did do though was hit on LOTS of position players. There are bunches of young guys that are productive right now in our system. The time is most definitely right to go out and trade from this surplus to strengthen a weakness. I honestly am of the belief that it would be better to use some of your better prospects and go after a true #1-2 guy. The Twins systems literally has quite a darn few pretty good prospects that giving up a Lewis + another top 10 wouldn't kill us. Especially since the core of this team is so young. I also don't really like the hope Robbie Ray is better than a #4 starter, or let's trade for Mathew Boyd type deals. A Syndergaard type, or someone of that nature would be who I'd rather see them target. Use your high end guys and bring back a high end guy. Preferably one that is a little younger and can be part of the core of guys we have locked up here for the next 3-5 years.
  13. It'd be nice, but Graterol 2020 vs Liriano 2006 are 2 totally different pitchers. One has a good fastball and maginal secondary stuff. The other had a good fastball and the best slider in the league and possibly in the history of baseball until he got hurt.
  14. One thing that is so cool about this. Granted they are a little older now, but who is their right mind would ever predict the Twins to be employing both Nelson Cruz and Josh Donaldson at the same time? Add to that a guy that profiles very similar in Sano and we have 3 of the best power hitters in the game in our lineup. Unreal.
  15. I'm not though really. He gives us great production for 2 years, then a 3rd year of marginal/average and a 4th year as a bench player, we are fine. This is how most free agent deals work. You are overpaying for the final years of their contract, while paying market rate for the first few years. This is a win now move. Coupled with the rest of a team that is young and producing and playing for peanuts, this shouldn't hurt them one bit.
  16. Now making a trade for a starting pitcher becomes more of a reality IMO. I know now, I at least FEEL like it may happen. Whether it's now or at the deadline. This move is going to energize the fanbase and I'd guess the team as well. Go out and get that great starting pitcher and this would look like the best offseason of any team in the league I'd say.
  17. This is awesome news. Surprising to me and I’ll be honest I didn’t think they would do it. The most important part of this to me is that the front office just showed us that they WILL push the chips in when it is warranted. I have to eat crow on this one as I had been plenty critical of these guys and ownership.
  18. Whatever happens, I don't think it's smart to go to arbitration with him over that 375K. It just HAS to be that they are working on a deal with him, otherwise, to alienate your best pitcher would be foolish.
  19. Did I say I was smarter than them? You posted, "what would you do". I posted what I would have done. Were any of the other teams after these guys in the situation that the Twins are in? Because this is a unique case here at the moment. Are you of the belief that you must stick to your "assigned values" all the time, no matter the situation? I'm curious, because by doing so, as they have done this offseason, it resulted in getting ZERO of the guys they wanted.
  20. I would guess the reason they haven't just given Berrios that 4.4 number is that they want to hold up the process and work towards a long term deal. If they just give him that 4.4 today, it's probably harder to get that long term deal done. If they aren't and this truly is a case of the Twins hanging tough over 350K, it is laughable and extremely cheap.
  21. Offered Wheeler 5/135 mil Offered Madbum 4/100 mill Offered Ryu 3/80 Yes, I would have done things like this is that order. That would have guaranteed we get one of them The differences in these offers and what the Twins had on the table amounts to about 3-5 million more per year. If they were willing to go to 100 with Wheeler, 80 with Madbum or 65 with Ryu, the difference is basically what would amount to a bullpen arm or a utility player. A bullpen arm or position player that could be easily filled with someone in your system for the league minimum. .
  22. Not truly angry as in this makes me mad and I just can't go on. In the scheme of life this is a baseball team and it won't affect my life one way or another. I guess I should have said frustrated.
  23. You forget about the guys that take the middle ground. Just because you want to see a few prospects traded or an impact guy signed doesnt mean you want to break the bank or trade a substantial portion of your top prospects. What I and others see is a team with not much money that has to be paid this year or next. Wouldn't hurt a thing right now to spend some of it on an impact guy. I also see a team with their lineup full and some redundency in their system with hot shot prospects. You can't play both the guys that are starting now and these prospects. Why not trade from a position of strength to beef up a place of weakness(pitching)? These prospects are worth lots right now. You don't need to trade them all but if you have 3-4 guys that profile as corner outfielders, you can afford to move one of them. When you have an all-star shortstop and a good young player at 2B, it's okay to move a middle infielder and bet on the guys you have there now that are producing.
  24. Haha. I don't have all the right answers either. None of us do, this is a message board to give opinions and burn time. I agree the Twins team from last year was great. I'd just like to see them supplement it and give it a good run.
  25. And maybe they aren't. Maybe they are working on an extention and Berrios is being unreasonable. We don't know. My hope is that either this year or next, they can get a deal for him to buys out 2 or so FA seasons. Talking about impact pitching all the time. Berrios is impact. Keeping him around and happy I think is of extreme importance.
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