Jump to content
Twins Daily
  • Create Account
  • Twins News & Analysis

    Pitching Pipeline: What's Next?


    Nick Nelson

    It's not exactly a secret that the Twins need better pitching. They have allowed the most runs in the American League by a huge margin, hanging an above-average offense out to try.

    Now that Jose Berrios has joined the rotation (hopefully for good), what else is on the way?

    Image courtesy of Gary A. Vasquez, USA Today

    Twins Video

    Berrios has been uneven, at best, in his initial exposure to the majors. Hopefully he'll find his way. Regardless of what happens with the electric youngster, the Twins are going to need much more quality pitching in order be considered a credible contender within the coming year or two.

    Here's an in-depth look at five prospects that could be considered the next wave, when combining closeness and caliber. At the end, we'll review some conclusions that can be drawn from where things stand with the foremost incoming arms.

    Adalberto Mejia, LHP (23) - Class-AAA Rochester

    Mejia, who came over in the Eduardo Nunez trade, was a particularly important addition because he slots into a Rochester rotation that is otherwise devoid of potential impact talent. Jason Wheeler, Pat Dean and Logan Darnell may get some looks but they are marginal big-leaguers. Mejia could really be something.

    He's a big, sturdy, durable left-hander with good breaking stuff and an improving strikeout rate. He has made 10 starts at at Triple-A and has mostly looked up to the task, commanding the zone and inducing plenty of swings and misses. He is closest to the majors among Minnesota's higher-tier pitching prospects. Most believe he'll end up being a mid-rotation type if he pans out, though.

    Stephen Gonsalves, LHP (22) - Class-AA Chattanooga

    While Mejia is closest to the big leagues, he is not Minnesota's top pitching prospect. That honor, almost indisputably, goes to Gonsalves at this point. The southpaw ranked sixth on our preseason Twins top prospect rankings and has done nothing but enhance his luster this summer. He made short work of the Florida State League in his second stint with the Miracle (2.33 ERA, 0.96 WHIP in 11 starts) before moving up to Chattanooga and not missing a beat (2.01 ERA, 1.19 WHIP in nine starts).

    The jump from Single-A to Double-A is considered perhaps the toughest for prospects, especially for a pitcher like Gonsalves who is said to lack a quality breaking ball. The lefty is simply dominating from his 6'5" frame and has been on an insane run lately with a 4-0 record and 0.80 ERA over his past seven starts.

    In total this year, he has held opponents to a .187 average with three homers in 119 innings.

    The fast-rising 22-year-old is prone to command issues that will likely become more pronounced as he starts regularly facing more patient hitters (by his own admission he got some help in his last outing – a complete game victory – because opponents "kept swinging at anything close to the zone") but that's not unusual for someone his age with his body type.

    Gonsalves is the kind of guy that scouts would describe early on as "projectable," meaning that he had big room for improvement with his tall lanky build and improving feel for pitching. He is now turning into exactly the pitcher that evaluators optimistically projected. His ceiling exceeds any other starter in the system and it wouldn't be a huge shock if he got a look this September.

    Tyler Jay, LHP (22) - Class-AA Chattanooga

    Jay was a gamble. With the sixth pick in last June's draft, the Twins took the Illinois closer just ahead of Andrew Benintendi, who is currently batting .350 for the Red Sox, and Carson Fulmer, who mowed through the minors and has been on the White Sox roster for a month.

    Rather than go after the dynamic offensive talent or the established collegiate starter, the Twins decided to pick Jay with hopes he could successfully transition into a rotation piece. The results, thus far, have not been great.

    After signing, Jay went to rookie ball and finished out his season in his familiar relief role. This year the switch to starting got underway, and right now there is no indication that it will stick. Jay pitched well, albeit not amazingly, for 13 starts in Fort Myers before moving up to Chattanooga. There, he made two starts and a few relief appearances before being shut down amidst some pain. He was diagnosed only with nerve irritation in his neck, which is mostly good news but still not entirely encouraging.

    In 15 starts between Single-A and Double-A this year, Jay pitched past the fifth only five times. He never exceeded 100 pitches. And at the end of July, with 83 total innings thrown, he came down with neck and shoulder problems. At the very least, this looks like it is going to be an extended project. Meanwhile, the players that Minnesota passed up to select Jay have rocketed to the big leagues and are already auditioning for prominent roles in 2017.

    Not ideal.

    Kohl Stewart, RHP (21) - Class-AA Chattanooga

    When the Twins made Stewart the top high school player selected in the 2012 draft, no one really balked at the decision. He was widely viewed as the best prep arm in the nation. He lived up to his billing with a nice debut in rookie ball, and with a little projection, one could envision the athletic teenager growing into a frontline starting stalwart.

    But he really hasn't developed. Sequencing, approach and fastball movement have enabled Stewart to continually achieve good results while climbing the minor-league ladder, but his peripherals have lagged behind. Strikeout-to-walk ratio isn't everything but it says a great deal about the sustainability of good performance and Stewart's 1.90 career mark is flat-out unimpressive, even when you ignore the expectations and pedigree. A 14.9 percent overall strikeout rate in full-season baseball just doesn't equate to a premium prospect, and that's mostly why Stewart has fallen off every list.

    He's still young – one of the younger starting pitchers in the Southern League at 21, in fact – so there is time for Stewart to improve and find a way to overpower pro hitters. The innate ability is there, I think. But he's not really one to count on at this point.

    Felix Jorge, RHP (22) - Class-AAA Chattanooga

    A skinny hurler who also has never missed many bats, Jorge is not any analyst's idea of a premier prospect talent, but he deserves mention because of his consistent penchant for getting outs. Like the three above him on this list, Jorge has reached the Double-A level by age 22, a noteworthy feat. He was fantastic earlier in Fort Myers, posting a 1.55 ERA in 14 starts, and has performed well enough with the Lookouts following a rocky debut.

    In the past, Terry Ryan has compared Jorge to current Twins starter Ervin Santana, noting similiarities in their build and fluid mechanics. Given his youth and sterling results – he has a 2.68 ERA in 278 innings dating back to the start of 2015 – Jorge demands some attention, but he has tallied a lackluster 213 strikeouts during that span. In order to become a real factor in the rotation conversation over the next couple of years, he's got to find a way to start missing some bats.

    SUMMARY

    Berrios was the clear prize of the Twins pitching prospect pool. The jury is still very much out on him based on his stunningly poor early results in the majors, but of course there is plenty of time left.

    His troubling transition increases the urgency of finding potential rotation-fronting talent. The Twins will head into 2017 with few reliable commodities. While the organization could certainly be worse off with their top upcoming pitching talent than the five names listed above, especially after graduating the top arm, none of them realistically boast No. 1 or No. 2 starter upside, other than maybe Gonsalves.

    The free agent market for starting pitching this winter is lacking at the high end, especially with Stephen Strasburg inking an extension in Washington. Options will be limited for finding true impact arms. This is why I feel that the Twins need to consider a major shakeup via trade – such as trading Brian Dozier this offseason – in order to infuse more pitching promise into the system.

    Follow Twins Daily For Minnesota Twins News & Analysis

    Recent Twins Articles

    Recent Twins Videos

    Twins Top Prospects

    Riley Quick

    Fort Myers Mighty Mussels - A, RHP
    Start #3 for the 21-year-old went well again. He tossed three scoreless innings with no walks. He gave up one hit and had three strikeouts. In 8 IP through 3 starts, he's given up 0 runs, 1 hit, 3 walks, and 13 strikeouts.

    User Feedback

    Recommended Comments



    Featured Comments

     

    I believe he got sent back down this morning too. Not sure what the White Sox were thinking with him, or what they're thinking with Zach Burdi either. 

     

     

    If someone offered me a bet that Tyler Jay would have a better MLB career than Carson Fulmer and that Nick Burdi would end up as a better reliever than Zach, I'd take it. This would be based on absolutely knowledge-free fandom.

     

    Not sure I'm ready to lump Berrios into this category just yet, and it's a bit of cherry picking when you ignore Sano and Kepler. Berrios has had what... 7 starts?  That MLB jump is hard. Berrios at least looks ready to the extent that he's had plenty of time in the high minors.  Buxton on the other hand... he needs more time in the high minors. period.

    I'm not saying Berrios is a bust by any means, its just that its obvious that its going to take months and years before he becomes a top end reliable starter. So then the rest of these 'top' prospects are in AA and lower, its depressing. Pitching is what the Twins desperately need in order to be competitive and most if it is years away.  Depressing.

     

     

     

    This is close to a nitpick, but I'm genuinely curious. B-r.com lists him as 6'3" and 195 lbs. That's not exactly beanpole thin, but it doesn't stand out as anything more than typical. OTOH the photo they have for him looks like the weight could be an underestimate. Any additional insight?

     

    Also, as far as durability goes, he did seem to miss some time in 2015. Do we know what that was about?

    That's definitely an underestimate on his weight, probably based on several years ago. I'd guess he's carrying 20-30 more pounds. You can see in the image (or these highlights) he is far from a beanpole. The missed time in 2015 was due to a suspension for stimulants. 

     

    You expected he would physically break down after a few months? Let's not imply that having your season end due to neck/shoulder problems is the same thing as being shut down by a team-imposed inning restriction (which I'm sure would've happened somewhat soon). He has done little to demonstrate his ability to effectively take on a starter's workload, which was basically his big test this year.

    Agreed. Only pitching 5 or more innings in 5 out of 15 starts isn't ideal. That's my biggest pet peeve with Milone this year and the reason I want him gone from the organization. 

    I get it, Jay was in his first full season, treating him with kid gloves, etc. For someone who's consistently written about on this site that his ceiling is so high, I had higher hopes for longer outings from him.  

     

     

     

    Wheeler has never pitched an inning from the bullpen in the minor leagues. If the team doesn't see him as better than marginal, I don't understand why he hasn't gotten experience in the only role he's likely to see in the majors. I trust the scouting eyes that say he lacks impact potential, but his minor league progression says to me he's going to play in the majors eventually, so it might as well be for us, otherwise why are we stringing him along?

    The Twins seem to like to teach them at the major league level where games count rather than using the minor leagues. Think Plouffe coming up as a shortstop and all of a sudden its "oh shoot, he can't make the throws".  Polanco -- played all year a 2nd base and when he comes up, "lets see if we can play him at short, we didn't notice he was blocked by Dozier".  Headshaking. 

    Re: Jay

     

    His pitch counts were usually at the 90 mark from what I saw, so his innings totals weren't necessarily the result of getting shelled and pulled early, but rather due to inefficiency. That's still not ideal, but it does frame the story differently. Or, as is often the case, I have my "facts" wrong.

     

    Watching the Cardinals debut a couple of 21-22 year old pitchers last week got me wondering--are our guys just not as good, different development philosophy, lack of contention, or all of the above?

     

    Re: Jay

    His pitch counts were usually at the 90 mark from what I saw, so his innings totals weren't necessarily the result of getting shelled and pulled early, but rather due to inefficiency. That's still not ideal, but it does frame the story differently. Or, as is often the case, I have my "facts" wrong.

    Watching the Cardinals debut a couple of 21-22 year old pitchers last week got me wondering--are our guys just not as good, different development philosophy, lack of contention, or all of the above?

     

    the Cardinals have a voodoo pact going, you just can't compare them to the Twins at all. Or, maybe we should have higher expectations for the Twins, your call...

    If you're nitpicking Carson Fulmer based on his initial performance in the majors I think you're kind of missing the point. I'm not saying he's ready to be an ace, nor am I defending Chicago's handling of him, but the fact remains he reached the majors a year after being drafted, is still healthy, and is setting himself up to be a rotation option (if not a given) for 2017.

     

    I was skeptical of the decision to draft Jay over him from the very start so admittedly I have my own preconceptions about this situation. 

     

     

    Side note: If Jay ultimately turns out to be a top notch lefty in the pen, I still won't see him or his selection as a bust.

    Agreed, and this was the redeeming quality of the pick in my mind. Still, when you're a team that needs pitching as badly as the Twins, ending up with a lefty reliever with the #6 pick in the draft is far from an ideal outcome.

    If the number 6 pick in the draft is a RP.....that's not a good outcome for a team that won't pay huge money for FAs, so, I disagree with that being a good outcome.

     

    I have no idea how anyone can judge the pick based on this year, though. He was good, if not great, and he's in AA.

    Watching the Cardinals debut a couple of 21-22 year old pitchers last week got me wondering--are our guys just not as good, different development philosophy, lack of contention, or all of the above?

    Reyes the 21-year old (22nd birthday in less than 2 weeks) has sported strikeout rates above one per inning all through the minors. They've moved him up rapidly, but nothing super-aggressive given his success. The one lesson, maybe, is at AAA his ERA ain't all that good (PCL tends to run hot), yet they deemed him ready and brought him up.

     

    Weaver the 22-year old (23rd birthday next week - detect a pattern?) likewise had mostly 9+ K/9 rates except for an anomalous high-A stint. They've let him basically skip AAA, so this will be very interesting to watch play out.

     

    Tuivailala the 23-year old (October baby) has taken slightly longer to reach the majors, also being a strikeout per inning guy essentially every year. He shares with Reyes some mediocre AAA numbers and a call-up to the majors anyway. He's back at AAA now.

     

    Mayers the gray-beard 24-year old (December) has less of a K/9 pedigree and this probably explains why it took him this "long" to get a call-up. He's back in AAA too.

     

    There's probably something to be learned from their promotion policy for pitching prospects, but more to be learned about getting the performance out of them, or picking wisely. Or maybe if our guys had to pitch in Reno and Salt Lake, our front office would be looking to rescue them from AAA too.

     

    Sano and Kepler were international signees, not draft picks. For some reason the Twins seem to do okay at signing international talent and are abysmal at selecting and developing from the draft. I don't know what to draw from that but a team like the Twins will never compete without doing well at both.

     

    I really don't see how you can draw that conclusion.  Development is development. If they can identify and  develop an international signing, they can identify and develop a draftee.  Coaches don't change between the two.  Player stops don't change (except for a stint in the DSL for some international signings) I think you're missing just how much goes into getting a player from the rookie leagues to the majors. It's not simple.  You're applying standards to the Twins that no major league team can reasonably attain. 

     

    You expected he would physically break down after a few months? Let's not imply that having your season end due to neck/shoulder problems is the same thing as being shut down by a team-imposed inning restriction (which I'm sure would've happened somewhat soon). He has done little to demonstrate his ability to effectively take on a starter's workload, which was basically his big test this year.

     

    My comment about innings is related to the fact he pitched about 70-80 innings all of last year (college and pros). We all knew there would be a transition and it would probably go slower than we'd like (this is the Twins, after all), and I don't see this season as a failure in that aspect. 

     

    Sure, you don't want to see an injury, but I just wouldn't be so worried about Jay at this point.

     

    You can be disappointed about the other guys being in the majors already, but it comes off as you holding that against Jay.

     

    It's not exactly a secret that the Twins need better pitching. ...

     

    Pretty good summary if you ask me and i don't consider your opinion "debby downer" more like cautious realism.  Mejia could be a steal, but i have never seen him pitch.  Gonsalves is probably the next polished guy with good potential that is close to ready..... and he's a lefty.  Not an especially hard thrower at 90-92, but racking up the strikeouts in Chattanooga averaging 10.2k per 9 over 9 starts.    

     

    Agreed on Jay.  Huge gamble by the Twins.  Potential for high reward, but they've tried this whole reliever to starter conversion thing recently on Cederoth and that experiment failed miserably, but will see.  

     

    I have been criticized to the "nth" degree for not being super high on Stewart.  Despite his good velocity, he has not induced strikeouts that you would expect from a top pitching prospect progressing through the system.  From what i understand his fastball lacks movement and he relies too heavily on his sinker to try and grind guys out via ground balls.  Sounds like another Gibson or Blackburn clone if you ask me. 

     

    In summary.  Twins need more starting pitching prospects. 

    Edited by ashburyjohn

    Reyes the 21-year old (22nd birthday in less than 2 weeks) has sported strikeout rates above one per inning all through the minors. They've moved him up rapidly, but nothing super-aggressive given his success. The one lesson, maybe, is at AAA his ERA ain't all that good (PCL tends to run hot), yet they deemed him ready and brought him up.

     

    Weaver the 22-year old (23rd birthday next week - detect a pattern?) likewise had mostly 9+ K/9 rates except for an anomalous high-A stint. They've let him basically skip AAA, so this will be very interesting to watch play out.

     

    Tuivailala the 23-year old (October baby) has taken slightly longer to reach the majors, also being a strikeout per inning guy essentially every year. He shares with Reyes some mediocre AAA numbers and a call-up to the majors anyway. He's back at AAA now.

     

    Mayers the gray-beard 24-year old (December) has less of a K/9 pedigree and this probably explains why it took him this "long" to get a call-up. He's back in AAA too.

     

    There's probably something to be learned from their promotion policy for pitching prospects, but more to be learned about getting the performance out of them, or picking wisely. Or maybe if our guys had to pitch in Reno and Salt Lake, our front office would be looking to rescue them from AAA too.

    A few of those guys don't sound all that different from Gonsalves. He seems to have some mental toughness. Anyway, from this armchair, especially given the lack of options, I'd probably give at least Gonsalves a crack this September, and maybe Jorge. I'd have told them by now, too, to see if they crack under the pressure. If they flop, crack for everyone.

    In regard to Jay turning out as a relief pitcher "only", I'm not saying that will happen. He seems to have the stuff that as he builds strength and endurance, he might be a very good starter. And goodness knows the Twins need front line starters!

     

    And while I am not predicting greatness, nor defending or blasting his selection, I do defend him not being a "bust" if he only turns out to be a top reliever. Statistics and commentary I've read and heard in the past indicate that a highly successful draft usually includes 3 players actually making and contributing at the ML level. So if Jay ends up "only" a top notch reliever I will be disappointed, but will not consider him a bust.

    Assuming Santana is around next year, it's going to be an interesting rotation battle.

     

    Molitor has said, per Doogie, that May's going back into the rotation for next year.  

     

    I have no idea what to make of Gibson, Santiago or Duffey at this point (I wish Duffey would go to the pen, personally).

     

    I think Berrios, Mejia and Gonsalves all deserve a shot, too.

     

    Assuming by the end of the year we move Santana, I'm actually excited about the prospects of:

     

    Berrios

    Mejia

    Gonsalves

    May

     

    With these guys battling for the 5th spot:  Stewart/Jay/Romero

     

    Am I nuts?

    This doesn't mention the Thorpedo. I know he hasn't pitched in a game since 2014 at this point and that's not ideal but the kid is still only 20. He's throwing now and if he gets a few starts in Cedar Rapids this year and has a good spring, he could be looking at a full season in A+/AA where he's 21 the whole time. He'd need a ton of success to be a September 2018 call up for the Twins but he deserves some mention with Romero when we talk about 2019 Twins opening day pitchers (Berrios, Gonsalves, Romero, Thorpe, Stewart/Jay/Jorge? A boy can dream!). Tons of upside and a really nice K rate in the low minors.

    The positive here is there are options. I believe 6 or 7 names have been mentioned on this thread already as potential high ceiling arms. 

    The Twins desperately need 1-2 out of this group to be successful. I don't care which one of the 6-7 names does it, it just needs to be done. Otherwise these last 3-4 years have been for nothing. 

    I have to agree with this ranking, because it is a pipeline (ie. the order they will appear in the majors) vs. a prospect (ie. who has the potential to be a better pitcher ranking.)

     

    Mejia will be up in less than a month.   I'd probably add Wheeler second, because (if still with the club) he might be MLB-ready next season.  I'd also add Aaron Slegers to the mix.  Probably after Gonsalves. 

     

    So something like Mejia-Wheeler-Gonsalves-Slegers-Jay-Stewart-Jorge, with Romero and (Randy) Rosario on their heels.  

     

    Pending trades of course.  And that is the kicker:

     

    If you add Duffey and Berios (who are borderline ready this season) to the equation, the Twins have a whole lot of pitchers in their pipeline, and come 2018 there will be a log jam (with the first 4 in that list, plus the 2 mentioned here, plus Gibson and May and Santana and Hughes).  10 pitchers for 5 spots

     

    Some of them will not pan out.  But the Twins should start thinking about trading some, before they do not pan out... 

    Edited by Thrylos

     

    Pretty good summary if you ask me and i don't consider your opinion "debby downer" more like cautious realism.  Mejia could be a steal, but i have never seen him pitch.  Gonsalves is probably the next polished guy with good potential that is close to ready..... and he's a lefty.  Not an especially hard thrower at 90-92, but racking up the strikeouts in Chattanooga averaging 10.2k per 9 over 9 starts.    

     

    Agreed on Jay.  Huge gamble by the Twins.  Potential for high reward, but they've tried this whole reliever to starter conversion thing recently on Cederoth and that experiment failed miserably, but will see.  

     

    I have been criticized to the "nth" degree for not being super high on Stewart.  Despite his good velocity, he has not induced strikeouts that you would expect from a top pitching prospect progressing through the system.  From what i understand his fastball lacks movement and he relies too heavily on his sinker to try and grind guys out via ground balls.  Sounds like another Gibson or Blackburn clone if you ask me. 

     

    In summary.  Twins need more starting pitching prospects. 

     

    Stewart is actually pitching worse than Blackburn or Gibson in the minors. Gibson had/has a plus slider and averaged about 8.5 K/9 and Blackburn walked fewer batters. 

     

    This doesn't mention the Thorpedo. I know he hasn't pitched in a game since 2014 at this point and that's not ideal but the kid is still only 20. He's throwing now and if he gets a few starts in Cedar Rapids this year and has a good spring, he could be looking at a full season in A+/AA where he's 21 the whole time. He'd need a ton of success to be a September 2018 call up for the Twins but he deserves some mention with Romero when we talk about 2019 Twins opening day pitchers (Berrios, Gonsalves, Romero, Thorpe, Stewart/Jay/Jorge? A boy can dream!). Tons of upside and a really nice K rate in the low minors.

     

    yeah i thought about him as well.  Last i heard his rehab was not going super well.  Progress very slowly.

     

     2019 Twins opening day pitchers (Berrios, Gonsalves, Romero, Thorpe, Stewart/Jay/Jorge? A boy can dream!). 

     

    Hughes, Duffey, May, and Gibson are still under contract in 2019 and Santana has a option... 

     

    Not to rain on your parade of dreams, but... 

    Edited by Thrylos

     

    Stewart is actually pitching worse than Blackburn or Gibson in the minors. Gibson had/has a plus slider and averaged about 8.5 K/9 and Blackburn walked fewer batters. 

     

    I

     

    I have to agree with this ranking, because it is a pipeline (ie. the order they will appear in the majors) vs. a prospect (ie. who has the potential to be a better pitcher ranking.)

     

    Mejia will be up in less than a month.   I'd probably add Wheeler second, because (if still with the club) he might be MLB-ready next season.  I'd also add Aaron Slegers to the mix.  Probably after Gonsalves. 

     

    So something like Mejia-Wheeler-Gonsalves-Slegers-Jay-Stewart-Jorge, with Romero and (Randy) Rosario on their heels.  

     

    Pending trades of course.  And that is the kicker:

     

    If you add Duffey and Berios (who are borderline ready this season) to the equation, the Twins have a whole lot of pitchers in their pipeline, and come 2018 there will be a log jam (with the first 4 in that list, plus the 2 mentioned here, plus Gibson and May and Santana and Hughes).  10 pitchers for 5 spots

     

    Some of them will not pan out.  But the Twins should start thinking about trading some, before they do not pan out... 

     

    Exactly.  Including the prospects that appear fringe.  Don't wait until they have no value in AAA.

     

    Hughes, Duffey, May, and Gibson are still under contract in 2019 and Santana has a option... 

     

    Not to rain on your parade of dreams, but... 

     

    True.  But the jury is out on Hughes.  There's a very good possibility he never pitches another major league game in his career let alone starting.  From what i understand he has a frayed labrum which ended Radke's career in addition to the “thoracic outlet syndrome” he had surgery for?  From what i understand it's a pinching of the nerves and vascular tissues that pass underneath the clavical (collar bone) and has no feeling in his arm when he raises his arm over his head?  Had surgery to hopefully correct this.

     

    Duffey is a two pitch starter who needs to learn a third pitch and use it effectively otherwise his starting career could be very short. Arbitration eligible 2019.  

     

    The Twins appear to have abandoned the possibility of May as a starter for whatever reason nobody understands.  Arbitration eligible 2018.

     

    Gibson has been god AWFUL, downright putrid this season.  I think he's ARb 1 this season?  To be perfectly honest i hope the Twins non tender him this off season.  He just flat out stinks.  

     

    Just my opinion there will be plenty of room in the rotation next season especially with Ryan out of the way.

    Edited by laloesch
    I think he's harsh on Tyler Jay like others here - he was going to take some time to make the transition. Also, some teams promote more aggressively, as the White Sox have demonstrated.

     

    But it's also a big concern that two players drafted immediately afterward are already in the majors. 

     

    Indeed, many of the players drafted during the team's run of awfulness have yet to make the majors, or even AAA, or be effective once they get there (Berrios and Buxton). Meanwhile, teams like the Texas Rangers, the New York Mets and others are thriving with recent draftees.

     

    We can't get a new GM and regime fast enough ...

     

    I agree completely about a new management team, but remember that the Rangers took Dillon Tate two selections BEFORE the Twins took Tyler Jay and their only (I think) drafted pitcher who has started a material number of games is Derek Holland, who was taken in the 25th round in 2006. Nick Martinez (18th round, 2011) has five starts. Chi Chi Gonzalez (1st round, 2011), with three very bad starts, including two losses against the Twins, is their only recent draftee to start for them this year.




    Create an account or sign in to comment

    You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

    Create an account

    Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

    Register a new account

    Sign in

    Already have an account? Sign in here.

    Sign In Now

×
×
  • Create New...