Gammons: Morneau placed on waivers

[old nurse]

I've already paid the money, that's the point of "sunk cost". The money is already gone, the question is....how do I best use that money? do I pay Justin to play here, or do I pay Justin to play someplace else and get a minor league player in return. Either way, the money is spent. Sunk cost, it's a concept even senior executives in huge companies struggle with. Decades of business school training still hasn't fixed their understanding well enough.

 

I get that concept of sunk cost.

So far in this trading period only 2 position players were traded for. The return was a utility player and a low level prospect. The prospect does not show up on any lists of prospects within the Yankee system that I could find. A place called the scouting book had him as the 748 best prospect.

The return on trades for position players does not bode well for return of prospects to the Twins if Morneau is traded.

So then there would be return on investment.

[Mr. Brooks]

I get that concept of sunk cost.

So far in this trading period only 2 position players were traded for. The return was a utility player and a low level prospect. The prospect does not show up on any lists of prospects within the Yankee system that I could find. A place called the scouting book had him as the 748 best prospect.

The return on trades for position players does not bode well for return of prospects to the Twins if Morneau is traded.

So then there would be return on investment.

 

Drew Butera does not count as a position player?

[diehardtwinsfan]

Drew Butera does not count as a position player?

 

He has one of the best ERAs in Twins history, so no.

[diehardtwinsfan]

 

Here endeth the sermon.

 

Just so you are aware, Olivia is a much better preacher than you... Not that I remember what you said.

[old nurse]

Drew Butera does not count as a position player?

 

meant to say trade for batter, sorry bout that

[Mike Sixel]

It is interesting how few trades are happening. Personally, I think teams are now over valuing cheap prospects. There is great value in the present, the known, and I bbelieve that MLB teams are putting too much stock in an unknown future. A team like Pittsburgh should be dealing .....not their two stud pitchers, but other prospects, IMO.

[Mike Sixel]

Love the game theory post.....not sure i agree with your conclusion, but it is a good post.

[drjim]

It is interesting how few trades are happening. Personally, I think teams are now over valuing cheap prospects. There is great value in the present, the known, and I bbelieve that MLB teams are putting too much stock in an unknown future. A team like Pittsburgh should be dealing .....not their two stud pitchers, but other prospects, IMO.

 

Completely agree with this in theory. But take Pittsburgh for example, is it even clear that Morneau provides an upgrade to their team? Much less one that they would want to give up value for?

[Alex]

It is interesting how few trades are happening. Personally, I think teams are now over valuing cheap prospects. There is great value in the present, the known, and I bbelieve that MLB teams are putting too much stock in an unknown future. A team like Pittsburgh should be dealing .....not their two stud pitchers, but other prospects, IMO.

 

I think it's partially this, but I think it's also that teams realize that the value of a guy they'll only have for a couple of months at most is less valuable than the chance of decent prospect succeeding. I think that's a recent paradigm shift (last few years) one the Twins used to be good at exploiting but other teams have gotten smarter, and I think the Twins are struggling to adjust.

[Reginald Maudling's Shin]

A Pittsburgh columnist calls for Pirates to trade for Morneau (h/t to Thrylos for tweeting this link this morning)

 

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[Mike Sixel]

Completely agree with this in theory. But take Pittsburgh for example, is it even clear that Morneau provides an upgrade to their team? Much less one that they would want to give up value for?

 

i never mentioned Morneau as a target.....

[LaBombo]

Completely agree with this in theory. But take Pittsburgh for example, is it even clear that Morneau provides an upgrade to their team? Much less one that they would want to give up value for?

The Pirates platoon first and right. The left-handed components are Garrett Jones and Travis Snider respectively.

 

Vs. RHP:

 

Snider- .231/.295/.344

Jones- .257/.311/.443

Morneau .281/.341/.473

 

Replacing Snider's bat with Morneau's by putting Jones in right would net nearly a 200 point OPS increase for that spot in the lineup. Can't say for sure that they'd give us anything significant for him, but he is absolutely an upgrade.