non-Vikings NFL off season news

[nicksaviking]

On 7/16/2025 at 3:15 PM, Mike Sixel said:

The NFL sure can't plead poverty. 

Oh, they'll find a way when it suits them.

[nicksaviking]

Should be interesting to see Addisons DD suspension vs Rashee Rice’s street racing suspension. Not in any way condoning a DD, but Rice’s actions were more dangerous, howevee, the NFL also won’t want to condone DD, so I have to think they’re going to want try to make them similar.

[Vanimal46]

This came out of no where. Go get him Kwesi! 

[gunnarthor]

10 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

This came out of no where. Go get him Kwesi! 

I mean if he's healthy, he'd look really good in purple. But I think the Raiders put him on the PUP list. He might not be ready this year. (Also not sure if we have the cap space). 

[TheLeviathan]

11 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

This came out of no where. Go get him Kwesi! 

The fight he was having with the Raiders about how to treat his foot sounds really, really toxic.

I'm not opposed to snagging him, but he won't play this year and there better be a heavy discount until that situation gets resolved.

[nicksaviking]

39 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

The fight he was having with the Raiders about how to treat his foot sounds really, really toxic.

I'm not opposed to snagging him, but he won't play this year and there better be a heavy discount until that situation gets resolved.

I'd definitely need to know more. I'd like to think the Raiders are just being sneaky about getting rid of a player who doesn't fit the new coaching scheme, but even with all the changes, they actually kept their DC, so I do suspect this might be a bad omen for him as a player.

[gunnarthor]

I don't really care about the Chargers but, uff-da. 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45922404/chargers-lose-rashawn-slater-season-patellar-rupture

Glad he got his extension signed though. 

[gunnarthor]

More NFL news than Vikings news but the NFL has had a tough time in court recently. A few days ago, the Nevada Supreme Court ruled that Jon Gruden's lawsuit against the NFL can move forward without having to go through the NFL's insanely pro-NFL arbitration system. And now the Second Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that Brian Flores' lawsuit can also go forward with going through arbitration. 

"In a written decision, the appeals court said the NFL arbitration rules violate the Federal Arbitration Act to explain why Flores and other coaches should be permitted to take their claims to trial rather than be forced into arbitration.

The 2nd Circuit said the NFL constitution's arbitration provision "contractually provides for no independent arbitral forum, no bilateral dispute resolution, and no procedure."

"Instead, it offends basic presumptions of our arbitration jurisprudence" by forcing claims to be decided by the NFL's "principal executive officer," the appeals court said."

Both decisions can be appealed to the US Supreme Court but the Court doesn't have to take them up, if they don't want to. I think both decisions are correct and generally good for plaintiffs. 

[nicksaviking]

6 hours ago, gunnarthor said:

More NFL news than Vikings news but the NFL has had a tough time in court recently. A few days ago, the Nevada Supreme Court ruled that Jon Gruden's lawsuit against the NFL can move forward without having to go through the NFL's insanely pro-NFL arbitration system. And now the Second Circuit Court of Appeals has ruled that Brian Flores' lawsuit can also go forward with going through arbitration. 
 

Yeah, Gruden vs. The NFL; kind of sucks that I'm stuck here cheering for the lesser of the two bigots. 

[nicksaviking]

While it likely wasn't a tough competition, Daniel Jones won the Colts starting QB job over Anthony Richardson. Have to think Jones will get a long leash too because the guys who picked Richardson are still there and have now benched him three times. Their jobs almost certainly will depend on Daniel Jones playing the best football of his career. 

And fair or not, with the current league-wide narrative, if Jones does play well, I would about guarantee everyone is going to give KOC the credit, not the Colts. With only a few months together everyone should probably re-consider that narrative, but it definitely would be advantageous to the Vikings as it should help them attract the top back up QBs going forward.

[Mike Sixel]

29 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

While it likely wasn't a tough competition, Daniel Jones won the Colts starting QB job over Anthony Richardson. Have to think Jones will get a long leash too because the guys who picked Richardson are still there and have now benched him three times. Their jobs almost certainly will depend on Daniel Jones playing the best football of his career. 

And fair or not, with the current league-wide narrative, if Jones does play well, I would about guarantee everyone is going to give KOC the credit, not the Colts. With only a few months together everyone should probably re-consider that narrative, but it definitely would be advantageous to the Vikings as it should help them attract the top back up QBs going forward.

If he plays a lot, Vikings will get a pick after round four, I believe. 

[gunnarthor]

There are some really, really poorly run teams in the NFL right now - Browns, Jags, Jets, Colts, Panthers (maybe getting better), Giants. I'm really enjoying it. :-) 

I hope the Bears continue to suck. I think the Raiders could leave that group and surprise a few people this year and maybe sneak into the wildcard if everything breaks their way. 

[nicksaviking]

51 minutes ago, gunnarthor said:

There are some really, really poorly run teams in the NFL right now - Browns, Jags, Jets, Colts, Panthers (maybe getting better), Giants. I'm really enjoying it. :-) 

I hope the Bears continue to suck. I think the Raiders could leave that group and surprise a few people this year and maybe sneak into the wildcard if everything breaks their way. 

Yeah, I think Pete Carroll's floor is an average but competent team.

But he won't be there long so they can revert back to the dysfunctional Raiders in a few years.

I'd also throw the Saints, Cowboys, Cardinals, Dolphins and Titans into the poorly run teams. I'd also put the Steelers in a not-poorly-run-but-too-stubborn-to-truly-compete category. My money is on Mike Vrabel and the Patriots also falling into that category. Also, controversial take here, but despite the high flying offense, Dan Campbell and the Lions could find this tier sooner rather than later too.

I might take the Jags off the list since they finally removed their clown of a GM, but that's still a ton of teams that you can count on never amounting to much as long as current decision makers are place.

[gunnarthor]

Browns QB room is a mess but they traded Pickett to the Raiders for a fifth. Now they have 40 year old Flacco starting and once a DL crushes him and breaks his old man bones, they have two rookies for depth, both of whom have had their moments but both have looked absolutely awful as well. I don't think the Browns will win 4 games this year. 

[nicksaviking]

34 minutes ago, gunnarthor said:

Browns QB room is a mess but they traded Pickett to the Raiders for a fifth. Now they have 40 year old Flacco starting and once a DL crushes him and breaks his old man bones, they have two rookies for depth, both of whom have had their moments but both have looked absolutely awful as well. I don't think the Browns will win 4 games this year. 

It will be interesting to see what happens with Stefanski. He's somehow managed to twice win coach of the year. And, yeah, coaching the Browns to the playoffs pretty much automatically gives you that title, and deservedly so.

But does anyone actually have a clue if he's a good head coach? There's no way to tell with how dysfunctional that franchise is.

[nicksaviking]

Two more receivers have been cut. Dionte Johnson and Trey Palmer. I have no interest in Johnson; he's toast. I could have interest in Palmer though, even if he's pretty unheralded.

[gunnarthor]

4 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Two more receivers have been cut. Dionte Johnson and Trey Palmer. I have no interest in Johnson; he's toast. I could have interest in Palmer though, even if he's pretty unheralded.

Yeah, I could take another LSU receiver. 😁

[gunnarthor]

KJ Osborn was officially released. Not a sexy pick up by any means but he knows the offense. If Carolina's asking price for Theilan is too high, I could see them nabbing him for nothing. 

[nicksaviking]

11 hours ago, gunnarthor said:

KJ Osborn was officially released. Not a sexy pick up by any means but he knows the offense. If Carolina's asking price for Theilan is too high, I could see them nabbing him for nothing. 

I could see them nabbing him for nothing, and still looking for another WR knowing they can re-cut him.

[gunnarthor]

Just putting this here as an example of other teams also doing things that infuriates their fan base sometimes. The Rams traded up (I think with us but I'm not completely sure and I didn't google it) to draft Chris Paul Jr in the draft in the fifth round. They cut him. He got scooped up by the rival Seahawks. Rams fans are mad. 

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2025/08/26/rams-chris-paul-roster-cut-sean-mcvay-explain/85839702007/

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, gunnarthor said:

Just putting this here as an example of other teams also doing things that infuriates their fan base sometimes. The Rams traded up (I think with us but I'm not completely sure and I didn't google it) to draft Chris Paul Jr in the draft in the fifth round. They cut him. He got scooped up by the rival Seahawks. Rams fans are mad. 

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/rams/2025/08/26/rams-chris-paul-roster-cut-sean-mcvay-explain/85839702007/

When your last three drafts you nail seven of your defensive starters, plus Puka Nacua, Kyren Williams and your starting LG, I'm thinking you've built up enough equity to do something like this confidently. 

I'd say the Vikings draft reputation isn't quite there yet.

[gunnarthor]

16 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

When your last three drafts you nail seven of your defensive starters, plus Puka Nacua, Kyren Williams and your starting LG, I'm thinking you've built up enough equity to do something like this confidently. 

I'd say the Vikings draft reputation isn't quite there yet.

I agree with you, fans are horrible even when they have a competent front office. I just shared another example.

[Vanimal46]

Oh my. It’s gonna be a heavyweight fight in the NFC North this year 

[Mike Sixel]

14 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

Oh my. It’s gonna be a heavyweight fight in the NFC North this year 

Scary.

[Mike Sixel]

Heard from one packer fan friend. He's elated.

CBS sports utterly obliterated Dallas over this. 

[gunnarthor]

Well, being the optimist that I am, I will say I won't be sad to see Kenny Clark leaving. 

[The Great Hambino]

"This was a move to get better on defense" - Jerry Jones

It's starting to look really weird that Jerruh is in the hall of fame while Robert Kraft isn't

[TheLeviathan]

17 hours ago, Vanimal46 said:

Oh my. It’s gonna be a heavyweight fight in the NFC North this year 

I don't remember any single division in the NFL being as strong as the North is this year in my entire memory of being an NFL fan.  (At least by perception before Week 1 hits)

[nicksaviking]

35 minutes ago, TheLeviathan said:

I don't remember any single division in the NFL being as strong as the North is this year in my entire memory of being an NFL fan.  (At least by perception before Week 1 hits)

The top three teams are loaded.

But I think perception of the NFC North was higher about six months ago when Chicago hired Ben Johnson. Seems to me the the anticipation that the Bears will actually be good has waned dramatically every month. And quite dramatically after Caleb Williams and the offense still looked terrible in the preseason.  

[TheLeviathan]

53 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

The top three teams are loaded.

But I think perception of the NFC North was higher about six months ago when Chicago hired Ben Johnson. Seems to me the the anticipation that the Bears will actually be good has waned dramatically every month. And quite dramatically after Caleb Williams and the offense still looked terrible in the preseason.  

All true....and I'd still pick the Bears to win the NFC West and NFC South if they moved there tomorrow.