Behind the Minnesota Twins’ Low 2024 Payroll is a Big 2025 Increase

[Major League Ready]

8 hours ago, ashbury said:

To the team, a player's contract is just a tranche in an overall portfolio.  The team can handle the ups and downs.

To the player, the contract is the whole kit and kaboodle.

You've taken the corporate stance by equating two very different things.

 

I was being a bit facetious here to make a point.  The team's relative success/failure took a big hit because the highest paid players (Correa / Buxton and Vasquez) all performed very poorly.  Not only is their little complaint but there are a whole lot of people going off the deep end as if spending is absolutely crucial to success.  The larger point is that the players are looking for every dime they can get even when they don't earn it and we are also talking about someone making generation wealth and retiring at 35. 

I would like a lot of businesses I patronize to not care about profit.  That would be great.  What I object to is people publicly trashing a business for acting like a business and expecting that business to operate to a different set of standards then the other MLB teams.  It seems appropriate to collect information that confirms the team retains more income than other teams and present it before publicly disparage the team and their owners.  Is this an unreasonable expectation?

[Rosterman]

The Twins are sitting very comfortably in Payroll Land for years to come. The Payroll should go up significantly, as long as the Twins win. A television contract will materialize. Sometimes I wonder what it would cost for even local television play. Can you easily sell, what, $100k, $300k, $500k a game in advertising, sponsorship dollars. 

Yes, Correa was a big expense. We complain that the Twins don't sign big, but we always need to understand that giving out big contracts keep you from giving other big contracts. The Twins also invested in Buxton They will also have to invest in other players. But development on-the-farm looks decent and there are other teams who win with payrolls significantly smaller than the Twins.

The current team can pretty much stay intact with arbitration salaries up into 2026. In 2027 current players could be expensive, but also could be traded for other players, and replaced by talent in the system.

I'm trusting the front office. I think their gaffe, though, as telling us they were cutting the budget rather than just doing whatever they were going to do. Their justification for cutting the budget because of TV is moot because they at least got TV money for 2024. But it sure didn't spark enthusiasm fo season ticket sales coming off a championship season.

[Riverbrian]

Margot, Kepler, Santana, Farmer and Thielbar will not be on the roster in 2025. 

That is 5 roster spots to fill and the money that comes off the books will be immediately spent by contract increases and arbitration raises. 

Back to my pet subject... back to it because it's important in consideration of future plans.  

Margot, Farmer and Santana are currently the right handed hitting platoon brigade.  

Are the Twins going to find three more of these types of players with almost no money to spend on them? 

Will they convert Castro, Miranda and Martin to those roles?

Is there any reason to believe... that they will suddenly stop sheltering left handed hitters? 

I ask all of you to look at who is still under contract in 2025 and put them in the roles they have been utilized this year and then look at the holes.  

The current template is

5 every day players

6 Platoon Players (3 Left/3 Right)

2 Catchers

Good luck to all of you with the courage to try making it function.