nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 Take the touchback. Every time.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 Dont trust the kicker, put it in the end zone!
LVTwinsfan Verified Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 The reason Dalton throws that pass down the middle to get them into range is because he knows the Vikings secondary is terrible
LVTwinsfan Verified Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 I don’t think I’ve ever seen a kicker kick two 60+ yarders in a game, so there’s that
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 Not impressed with much about this team aside from the special teams. Thought KOC was supposed to be an offensive whiz but so far the offense seems to have even taken a step back from last year. No idea what the deal is with Kirk, thought getting rid of zimmer would make him even better but he’s been bad Kirk for much of the year. Can’t run the ball worth a lick. The defense is bad bad. We had trouble stopping old men Andy dalton and latavius Murray who I forgot was still in the league. A good offense will blow the doors off the this defense. Oh well wins are hard to get and we’ll take every one we can but this appears to be a team that will only finish above .500 due to a weak schedule. Otherwise it’s more mediocrity
LVTwinsfan Verified Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 Just now, Aggies7 said: Not impressed with much about this team aside from the special teams. Thought KOC was supposed to be an offensive whiz but so far the offense seems to have even taken a step back from last year. No idea what the deal is with Kirk, thought getting rid of zimmer would make him even better but he’s been bad Kirk for much of the year. Can’t run the ball worth a lick. The defense is bad bad. We had trouble stopping old men Andy dalton and latavius Murray who I forgot was still in the league. A good offense will blow the doors off the this defense. Oh well wins are hard to get and we’ll take every one we can but this appears to be a team that will only finish above .500 due to a weak schedule. Otherwise it’s more mediocrity A lot of dropped balls by the receivers but I basically agree with everything you said here. This is the worst Vikings defense I have seen in a long time, and they go out there every week with the same plan, they play Buffalo this year. I could see a 54 -3 loss in that one.
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said: A lot of dropped balls by the receivers but I basically agree with everything you said here. This is the worst Vikings defense I have seen in a long time, and they go out there every week with the same plan, they play Buffalo this year. I could see a 54 -3 loss in that one. They play buffalo AND Miami. Miami is in 2 weeks so Tua will probably be back. Very very thin defensively. This will be a typical Vikings year. Competitive enough to make the playoffs, flawed enough to not get past the first or second round. And too good to get a high draft pick.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Author Posted October 2, 2022 That game was absolutely exhausting. It would be nice to watch one game this year where I’m not worried about having a heart attack.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Author Posted October 2, 2022 We are the luckiest 3-1 team in football. It will get exposed soon enough. The defense ain’t it. And Kirk isn’t doing the offense any favors.
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said: We are the luckiest 3-1 team in football. It will get exposed soon enough. The defense ain’t it. And Kirk isn’t doing the offense any favors. I would imagine we’ll beat the bears at home (hopefully) but then we’ll get the doors blown in at Miami. 4-2 going in to the bye
LVTwinsfan Verified Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 This umbrella zone they use on every play does not work, it’s like a prevent defense and too easy for receivers to find a hole.
LVTwinsfan Verified Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, Aggies7 said: I would imagine we’ll beat the bears at home (hopefully) but then we’ll get the doors blown in at Miami. 4-2 going in to the bye I wouldn’t take any game for granted
Aggies7 Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said: I wouldn’t take any game for granted Not with this team. Cripes the defense couldn’t hold for 25 seconds
LVTwinsfan Verified Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 The Vikings offense does seem to be able to score when it’s do or die, and I don’t care what the booth says that was pi on Thielen, the defender was all over him
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 31 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said: I wouldn’t take any game for granted At least Chicago starts an even worse QB than Andy Dalton.
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Author Posted October 2, 2022 The defense is unlikely to get any better. Not after Lewis Cine snapped his ankle in half today.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Vanimal46 said: The defense is unlikely to get any better. Not after Lewis Cine snapped his ankle in half today. And with whatever happened to Harrison Smith on the last drive. That didn’t look good.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Aggies7 said: Not impressed with much about this team aside from the special teams. Thought KOC was supposed to be an offensive whiz but so far the offense seems to have even taken a step back from last year. No idea what the deal is with Kirk, thought getting rid of zimmer would make him even better but he’s been bad Kirk for much of the year. Can’t run the ball worth a lick. The defense is bad bad. We had trouble stopping old men Andy dalton and latavius Murray who I forgot was still in the league. A good offense will blow the doors off the this defense. Oh well wins are hard to get and we’ll take every one we can but this appears to be a team that will only finish above .500 due to a weak schedule. Otherwise it’s more mediocrity The saints D had been quite good this year....
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 25 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said: The saints D had been quite good this year.... It has been, but Cousins not only panicked and made poor choices when he was blitzed, he also panicked and made poor choices when he thought he’d get blitzed but wasn’t. Why does it seem Cousins can never correctly audible to a quick out pass when he sees a blitz? Decent pocket passers do it regularly (while Brady and Rodgers do it just about every time) but Cousins rarely gets it right.
LVTwinsfan Verified Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 2 hours ago, nicksaviking said: It has been, but Cousins not only panicked and made poor choices when he was blitzed, he also panicked and made poor choices when he thought he’d get blitzed but wasn’t. Why does it seem Cousins can never correctly audible to a quick out pass when he sees a blitz? Decent pocket passers do it regularly (while Brady and Rodgers do it just about every time) but Cousins rarely gets it right. The simple answer is, Cousins is not Brady or Rodgers…not even close
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, LVTwinsfan said: The simple answer is, Cousins is not Brady or Rodgers…not even close Anyone who expects their QB to be one of the best in history is bound for disappointment. Cousins is not ideal, but it's all about the defense for this team. It has to get better.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, LVTwinsfan said: The simple answer is, Cousins is not Brady or Rodgers…not even close Im not asking him to be. He is flat out awful when blitzed. As far as passing when under pressure goes, can he at least be Andy Dalton or Joe Flacco?
LVTwinsfan Verified Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Mike Sixel said: Anyone who expects their QB to be one of the best in history is bound for disappointment. Cousins is not ideal, but it's all about the defense for this team. It has to get better. I don’t think anyone expects that from Cousins, I think he needs to figure out how to slow the game down so he doesn’t go into a complete panic when he smells pressure.
LVTwinsfan Verified Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 5 hours ago, nicksaviking said: Take the touchback. Every time. Yeah 20 yd kickoff returns are useless
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted October 2, 2022 Posted October 2, 2022 24 minutes ago, nicksaviking said: Im not asking him to be. He is flat out awful when blitzed. As far as passing when under pressure goes, can he at least be Andy Dalton or Joe Flacco? Then maybe don't compare him to them? He needs to be better, but the defense needs to be way more
Danchat Old-Timey Member Posted October 3, 2022 Posted October 3, 2022 Being 3-1 is nice especially with a matchup with the Bears next, but this squad doesn't look as good as they should - but there is plenty of time for improvement. It does feel like Zimmer is still coaching this team, but simply has more luck this time around... and yeah, I didn't see Cousins becoming more inaccurate and erratic when finally paired with the coach 'that would unlock his potential'. On 10/2/2022 at 11:52 AM, Aggies7 said: Miami is in 2 weeks so Tua will probably be back. Eh, I dunno if they'll let him be back so soon after all the backlash - but I guess if he's got CTE, it's not like waiting another week is going to fix that. I expect to see Teddy start the next couple games for them. 23 hours ago, nicksaviking said: And with whatever happened to Harrison Smith on the last drive. That didn’t look good. Apparently he got kicked in the groin, so methinks he'll be OK for next week. Cine, on the other hand, might have a 12+ month recovery depending on what exactly happened, but for 2022, it's not a big blow as Metellus has already shown he can be a solid backup.
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