How Long of Leash Will Chris Archer Get?

[dex8425]

1 hour ago, se7799 said:

How or what are you looking at when you say Gray hasn't had a decent season for 5 years.

I think he really had no idea and was just being a troll or a hater. Maybe he was thinking of someone else. Gray is legit. Would be a playoff starter on any team in MLB. 

[twins_89]

I think a big part of the concern about Bundy/Archer comes from the poor track record of the front office when making this type of signing. When signing veteran starters who are highly questionable due to age or injury the teams failure rate has been frustratingly high. 

[Eris]

Does anyone know the duration of TOS symptoms that Archer has.  Do his fingers become numb after throwing a certain number of pitches and then this numbness goes away in a day or two or does the numbness appear after multiple outings and then lasts for weeks or months. Neither Phil Hughes or Matt Harvey have returned to their pre TOS levels. 

[Jacksson]

Rosters S/B temporally at 30, not 28.  Then at 28 for the rest of the year, not 26.  Just too many injuries and minor "tweaks" during the season that result in players being on the field when thay should be in the Training Room receiving treatment.  That is not in the best interest of the player, nor in the best interest of the team.  Expanded rosters - with a maximum content of pitchers - could indiscriminate use of the Injured List and the Ping-Pong bouncing of players between the minor leagues and the major leagues.  Further - the "40 Man Roster" is well past its prime.  It's high time that limit was increased to at least 45.  Especially and particularly for the teams that are not in a financial position to indiscriminately sign high ticket free agents and instead rely on the draft and the development of organizational player depth through the signing of international free agents in addition to the attempted reclamation of players discarded by other organizations.      

 

[Shaitan]

This is not directed at the OP, and I use this phrase too about "how long of a leash."

But it's kind of weird how many phrases we uses for athletes are the same terms we use for animals.

[tony&rodney]

7 hours ago, KFEY93 said:

Berrios is so overrated by the general Twins fans populace its astounding.

Ah, just an fyi or fwiw ... he received the fourth most votes by writers of The Athletic to win the Cy Young this year. National articles hold Jose Berrios in very, very  high regard and have for quite some time now.  It is actually Twins fans who underrated him, if anything.

[Karbo]

17 hours ago, nicksaviking said:

Anyone know what Archer's velocity was in his one start? Getting back to typical velocity in short order seems to be a pretty good tell tale sign if a guy is returning to form.

In his handful of starts last year he was only sitting at about 92MPH, down from his typical 94-95. Just like with Bundy, if he doesn't get that velocity back, I don't like his chances.

But at least with Archer, if it doesn't work out in the rotation, I'd be more than happy to give his +slider a shot in the pen.

In his ST start they say he was sitting around 93-94 and hit 95 on TV

[Karbo]

I personally worry more about Bundy than Archer. Also. I am a bit concerned with the way Rocco handles the pen. Who does he use as "piggyback" options? I saw a bit of some of the young guys in ST on TV and some looked good, but some looked like they should be sent back to AA to find out how to throw strikes! 

[KFEY93]

10 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Ah, just an fyi or fwiw ... he received the fourth most votes by writers of The Athletic to win the Cy Young this year. National articles hold Jose Berrios in very, very  high regard and have for quite some time now.  It is actually Twins fans who underrated him, if anything.

Lol, then they are delusional as well in my mind. He has Cy Young type stuff for 2-3 games a year. And then is average to below average the rest of the year. Wake me when he wins a Cy young. 

[tony&rodney]

4 hours ago, KFEY93 said:

Lol, then they are delusional as well in my mind. He has Cy Young type stuff for 2-3 games a year. And then is average to below average the rest of the year. Wake me when he wins a Cy young. 

Fair enough to dislike Jose Berrios as a pitcher. One never needs to accept that some players gain All Star status, large salaries, or high rankings through various means. Hopefully the disdain for Berrios is not tied to the fact he wouldn't sign with the Twins for their price and/or that he is now with Toronto. It is just his job after all. Plenty of Twins fans were not completely enamored with Berrios, yet he remains a consensus top 25 starting pitcher in MLB.

Chris Archer was once held in high regard too, before injuries set him back. Archer looked good in his brief appearance in Spring Training and it will be interesting to see if he can regain his command of what was previously a solid repertoire of pitches.