cmathewson Provisional Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 You just aren't swapping replacement players in and out of the roster with waiver claims. Often the players on waivers are those that have no room in the current organization and thus become expendable. They are out of options, they are that 26th or 41st player. They might just need that opportunity somewhere else that their current team can't supply (see Sorrento and Garrett Jones, both former Twins,as example). If you have the roster flexibility, it is possible to take a flyer. Who knows. The Twins should be in a position where they can have 1-2 spots on the 40-man to rotate guys in an out. The downside of waiver claims is that you need to keep the guy, or he goes thru waivers again. But if he isn't producing, does it matter. And you may get lucky and be able to claim the guy, then designate him later for assignment and still keep him. Were you awake in the 90s? It seems all Ryan did was make waiver claims, dump the ones that didn't work and trade the ones that did. It got really old. I much prefer giving the kids a chance, even if it means more short-term losing, just as I preferred '99 to any year after 93.
LaBombo Verified Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Some.Stat for this ratio? Bourbon Average on Butera in Play, maybe?
snepp Verified Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Stat for this ratio? Bourbon Average on Butera in Play, maybe? Anything over .08 should be illegal.
LaBombo Verified Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Anything under .08 should be illegal.ftfm, I need to be about .1+ to handle the third and fourth outs he makes. Even with the cornucopia of defensive intangibles.
East Coast Twin Verified Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Looks like he's a Cub. Chicago Cubs claim OF Borbon from Texas Rangers | Texas Rangers Blog
Ultima Ratio Verified Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 So the Astros passed? Did the claim order end up being 2012 records regardless of league for the Cubs to get him? I thought it was by league.
Alex Verified Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 People who are on waivers are there for a reason - you're not going to find quality talent that can make a noticeable difference. If you have a particular area where you are weak and the person can help in that specific area, maybe it makes sense. . You mean like say, a struggling CF who you just called up from AA and looks overmatched, a 4th OF type CF who just went on the DL, and nothing else in the cupboard?
Otto von Ballpark Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 I too would be interested in the waiver priority order. Not only would Borbon have been a help with Mastroianni on the shelf, but Casper Wells, another waiver guy, would be an upgrade on Wilkin Ramirez if you're looking for a corner guy on your bench with a little pop. Wells' career MLB stats are about on par with Ramirez's career AAA stats.
ThePuck Provisional Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 I thought it was by league. I believe in the first month it just goes by MLB record. I wrote the following in a post at the top of this page: 'Something I didn't see mentioned in there is that I believe within the first month of the season, waiver priority is determined by win/loss record regardless of league...so I think that means Astros have first shot, then Cubs then Rockies and then us until May comes around'
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 From mlbtr:Because waiver priority is determined by the previous year's standings for the first month of the season, the Cubs had second priority to claim Borbon. He did not pass through the entire American League unclaimed.
jokin Old-Timey Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 You mean like say, a struggling CF who you just called up from AA and looks overmatched, a 4th OF type CF who just went on the DL, and nothing else in the cupboard? If the only the "hear no evil", "speak no evil" crowd would actually read your words of wisdom.
Ultima Ratio Verified Member Posted April 19, 2013 Posted April 19, 2013 Thanks guys. Kinda surprised the Astros passed anyway.
ashbury Verified Member Posted April 23, 2013 Posted April 23, 2013 Looks like he's a Cub. Chicago Cubs claim OF Borbon from Texas Rangers | Texas Rangers Blog Also at MLBTradeRumors: He did not pass through the entire American League unclaimed. The teams and leagues don't typically announced failed waiver claims, but it's quite possible the Twins submitted a claim but the Cubs had dibs.
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