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I agree until they actually sign a free agent from a different team for big money nobody can argue your point

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I don't know the reason why the health concerns are such a big deal for Marcum. I understand it being a concern, but certainly not a worry.

 

The Tigers made a mistake throwing that money at Sanchez. That might end up being a good thing for the Twins in the long run.

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I agree until they actually sign a free agent from a different team for big money nobody can argue your point

 

Well they're saying Porcello is available as the result of this signing, the Tigers don't seem the type to be averse to trading within the division. There would seem to still be some upside in him, wonder what they'd want?

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Well they're saying Porcello is available as the result of this signing, the Tigers don't seem the type to be averse to trading within the division. There would seem to still be some upside in him, wonder what they'd want?

 

He's been better than Correia the last three years

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There is always a legitimate reason we don't get quality FA pitching.

 

Depends on how you define legitimate. The Twins always have an explanation -- believability of the explanation depends on the mindset of the listener.

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Is there any way the twins could trade willingham or morneau for dickey? what all would the mets require in that deal?

 

Gomez, Guerra, Humb............aw just nevermind.

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Depends on how you define legitimate. The Twins always have an explanation -- believability of the explanation depends on the mindset of the listener.

 

That post was sarcasm...if you read it again, you'll likely see that.

 

Based on what I've read around here, I have no doubt some believe all that post is true...or at least those who want to give the front office a pass on practically everything. That post basically is their justification for why we'll never get top notch FA pitching under any circumstance.

 

I'm guessing that maybe some of it is true...or, at the very least, has bits of truth in it along with other factors. That's just an opinion.

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That post was sarcasm...

 

Should have realized that based on the poster.

 

My main thought when reading Nick's article was that the Twins have again defined ironic (moronic, too?). Team that most needs starting pitching AND has the money to buy some and does little.

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Should have realized that based on the poster.

 

 

 

Based on what I've read around here, I have no doubt some believe all that post is true...or at least those who want to give the front office a pass on practically everything. That post basically is their justification for why we'll never get top notch FA pitching under any circumstance.

 

For me, I'm guessing that maybe some of it is true...or, at the very least, has bits of truth in it along with other factors. That's just an opinion.

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Should have realized that based on the poster.

 

My main thought when reading Nick's article was that the Twins have again defined ironic (moronic, too?). Team that most needs starting pitching AND has the money to buy some and does little.

 

I believe we miss out on FA pitching for a variety of reasons, based on each pitcher. IMO, some pitchers will just go to the highest bidder, no matter what. Now, the highest bidders aren't normally in last place, so it's ideal for the pitcher to accept the contract for two reasons...money and winning; however, if a pitcher is all about the money, a team in last place willing to spend should be able to land that pitcher too. I don't think it's hard to imagine thqat there are many players all about the money.

 

There are other players, say for example Vets who haven't ever been winners and are at a point in their career where they have less time left than they have played, that will discount more money to win. Some will value location (close to home, what have you).

 

There are more factors, but you get the point.

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I agree, Twins should have made a competitive offer for Dempster, would would have been a solid starter and innings eater until the next wave of pitchers is ready. Especially at 2 years $13M.

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This is the time to spend quality $$ on a quality player, but we already have the pitchers to fill out the pitching staff. A healthy Vance Worley will be our #1 starter and we have Diamond, and now Kevin Correia.

 

Liam Hendricks was our Twins Minor League pitcher of the year in 2011 and pitched very well in AAA last year. He will be a solid #3-4 starter with 10-15 wins and a 3.50 era, unless he is a head case. The Twins situation demands that we find out if he can fulfill his promise.

 

I can't think of an unsettled pitching staff that didn't have at least one pleasant surprise. Last year it was Diamond. I want to see what Deduno can do with a full year. Someone will shock us when given the chance. Who will it be this year? Vasquez? Duensing? Who knows?

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Oh my, this team needs a 36 year old free agent pitcher like it needs a hole in the head. If you want to complain about Brandon McCarthy or Sanchez go right ahead as they actually could help us when we need it. But please don't trot out this stuff over a guy that just is not a logical part of the Twins future.

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Oh my, this team needs a 36 year old free agent pitcher like it needs a hole in the head. If you want to complain about Brandon McCarthy or Sanchez go right ahead as they actually could help us when we need it. But please don't trot out this stuff over a guy that just is not a logical part of the Twins future.

It isn't about somebody for the future--it's about somebody now! There is/was no reason that the Twins should not put an entertaining team on the field every game--it was promised. If they do trade more of the top players for rebuilding purposes--there had better be a very solid return of talent. We have already endured two disgusting seasons, if we are to endure another (even worse) season there has to be a quick turnaround. We paid for a new stadium so we could watch an interesting, competitive team (as was promised) so it is incumbent that the Twins management provide one--and not pull "a Marlins" on us!

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Terry Ryan on Nick Blackburn:

 

"I'm counting on him to compete for a job. There's no reason why he can't be in a situation where he's breaking camp with us. He's coming on a minor league invite, but that's a little deceiving. We've got a lot invested in him."

 

And now we know that either Ryan doesn't understand the concept of sunk cost, or more likely, that he believes the dopey fan base doesn't.

 

Picturing a 2013 rotation with both Correia and Blackburn reminds me of the old Norm Macdonald SNL one-liner about the music of Kenny G.

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What Ryan means is there's no external reason where Blackburn couldn't show up healthy and motivated and impress everyone enough to grab a spot. If its more of the same nibbling and fidgeting with his hat, Rochester awaits.

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