Is Arcia the best prospect in the system?

[Brock Beauchamp]

so in other words, keep him out of the AFL

Well played, sir. Well played.

[Shane Wahl]

Well played, sir. Well played.

Hopefully they use the AFL for other guys to get some more at bats. I don't think Arcia needs that. Angel Morales is a clear case.

[Brock Beauchamp]

Hopefully they use the AFL for other guys to get some more at bats. I don't think Arcia needs that. Angel Morales is a clear case.

I think you missed the joke. Kubel blew out his knee in the AFL.

[Shane Wahl]

I think you missed the joke. Kubel blew out his knee in the AFL.

Ah, yes. No AFL for Arcia.

[gunnarthor]

Hopefully they use the AFL for other guys to get some more at bats. I don't think Arcia needs that. Angel Morales is a clear case.

I think Morales might be a lost cause by this point. I'm sure they'll have him do something in Latin America this off season but he shouldn't be going to the AFL.

[diehardtwinsfan]

Morales is one of those guys that put up video game stats at Elizabethon but never really did much after that. He's been a lost cause for a while as he's never put up anything close to those numbers since. He has some power there, but never really put things together. I'm not sure I'd send him to the AFL. They can only send so many guys there. Gibson is definitely going, and I could see them sending Hendricks there as well.

[drjim]

I'm jealous right now. What I want to see... Is a Mike Trout type guy come up from the farm. A Trout... A Strasburg... a Harper... A Middlebrooks... a Rizzo. Just one... Sometime soon.

 

Its hard to wait... Just one. Someone come up and blow the doors off.

You did just reference three of the best prospects of the past 20 years. That is a hard act to live up to. We'll see how long Rizzo and Middlebrooks keep it up.

[drjim]

I enjoy these prospect threads, but it always amazes me how certain everyone is about their opinions. Let's face it, at this point Wilison Ramos hasn't proven he is any more than a backup major league catcher. Sure the tools are there to be more, but there is a pretty good chance his career numbers aren't any better than Benji Molina with probably poorer defense. The idea that the Twins traded a future all star for Matt Capps is just an idea. It might happen, it might not.

 

The same thing is largely true of most of these prospects. I am high on Hendriks, but pretty soon he has to prove he can pitch in the majors. People on these threads still talk about Revere as if he will be a 4th OF. I believe his speed and hitting ability make him a major league regular. Despite their tools, none of the near ready and not so near ready prospects have proved they can hit in the majors. Until they do, Revere is ahead of them.

 

I am pretty high on the Twins farm system right now. There are a lot of potential sticks in the system and many appear to have a good chance to be elite defenders as well. I like the pitching more than most people seem to as well. If some of the guys like Gibson, Wimmers, Salcedo, Bromberg can get and stay healthy along with some of the upper level relief arms, the Twins will have some potential help within the next 2 years. Some of the lower level guys could move fast, given good health and a little luck. I am just not as sure as some of you seem to be, who is going to be good and who is going to suck.

Good post. In general I think there is an overvaluing of prospects across baseball. I understand teams don't want to get burned when they trade one away, but I am amazed at how hesitant teams are to trade them.

[Turd Furgeson]

what tools does hicks have besides an 80 arm? his hit tool is a 50 at best and that's being generous with this year in mind. power...50? 55 at best. speed. 60. defense....another 60. that's a good player considering he's a cf'er but arcia's tools are comparable. hit: 65. power: 60. defense: 50. arm: 55. speed: 50. considering our system's challenges in producing middle of the order bats, i'll take arcia's skillset.

Well, for starters he's a 5 tool player, so he has 5 tools. A tool doesn't have to be 80 in order to be good, 80 is obscenely good. We're talking about raw tools here, what are his present tools? I'm not sure how to rank him as I've never really seen him play but according to scouting reports he's a five tool player. A guy that shows legit power in BP (not Sano but probably 60 power), and is beginning to show it here. If scouts say he's a 5 tool player, they think his bat tool is above average as well.

 

We're talking about tools that are still a bit raw. I mean, Sano may have 80 raw power but he sure as hell doesn't have 80 in game power presently.

[Turd Furgeson]

I'm jealous right now. What I want to see... Is a Mike Trout type guy come up from the farm. A Trout... A Strasburg... a Harper... A Middlebrooks... a Rizzo. Just one... Sometime soon.

 

Its hard to wait... Just one. Someone come up and blow the doors off.

Trout is getting Mickey Mantle comps thrown at him, most teams wish they had a guy like that.

[Riverbrian]

You did just reference three of the best prospects of the past 20 years. That is a hard act to live up to. We'll see how long Rizzo and Middlebrooks keep it up.

I know... And that's exactly what I want. Is it too much to ask? ;)

[Brock Beauchamp]

I'm jealous right now. What I want to see... Is a Mike Trout type guy come up from the farm. A Trout... A Strasburg... a Harper... A Middlebrooks... a Rizzo. Just one... Sometime soon.

 

Its hard to wait... Just one. Someone come up and blow the doors off.

That's a bit much to ask because the Twins already had one of those guys come up from the farm eight years ago.

[Mike Sixel]

I also find it odd how unwilling teams are to trade A level guys for the more certain current MLB player. Teams in the NFL do not like to trade draft picks for known commodities either. Malcolm Gladwell wrote an article about this bias a few years ago, it is in the interwebs someplace, if you are interested.

[Riverbrian]

That's a bit much to ask because the Twins already had one of those guys come up from the farm eight years ago.

I know... That's why I want another one. Watching Trout run around the bases for the Angels just wants me want another one more.

 

It's been Awhile... The Twins need someone to come up and blow the doors off. This organization needs it. At least I need it. It's like someone closed down my baseball crack house.

 

Pig... I know exactly what you are saying about 8 years ago... I remember the feeling... Watching every moment when he was in the game... The Future was here... The Real Deal J.D. Durbin coming up in 2004 was an exciting time.

[Brock Beauchamp]

I know... That's why I want another one. Watching Trout run around the bases for the Angels just wants me want another one more.

 

It's been Awhile... The Twins need someone to come up and blow the doors off. This organization needs it. At least I need it. It's like someone closed down my baseball crack house.

 

Pig... I know exactly what you are saying about 8 years ago... I remember the feeling... Watching every moment when he was in the game... The Future was here... The Real Deal J.D. Durbin coming up in 2004 was an exciting time.

Heh.

 

I think there's a chance we'll see that guy next year in Arcia. I think the kid is going to blow up over the next eight months. He'll force the front office's hand sooner rather than later.

[Riverbrian]

Heh.

 

I think there's a chance we'll see that guy next year in Arcia. I think the kid is going to blow up over the next eight months. He'll force the front office's hand sooner rather than later.

Fingers Crossed... Head bowed to the Sky... His production is looking fantastic thus far. The Twins will wait out a couple of months to delay the Arb Clock... and I will be waiting his presence on the Twins lineup card.

 

I hope he keeps knocking it around until that moment because I'm starting to get jazzed.

[FrodaddyG]

Fingers Crossed... Head bowed to the Sky... His production is looking fantastic thus far. The Twins will wait out a couple of months to delay the Arb Clock... and I will be waiting his presence on the Twins lineup card.

 

I hope he keeps knocking it around until that moment because I'm starting to get jazzed.

Ain't autocorrect a batch?

[Riverbrian]

Ain't autocorrect a batch?

lol... I love Autocorrect... The Consequences of it are something this world needed.

 

My Mother In Law texted me asking how my Anniversary Date with my wife went.

 

I replied... We had a nice Dinner and she said that I never show affection in Public so I had no choice but to "kill" her in the middle of the restaurant in front of everybody.

 

When the Police arrived... I had to call for my wife to come home and show that she is indeed alive. She had to produce ID for them.

[diehardtwinsfan]

you'd have thought the "in front of everybody" comment would have tipped her off to the mistake, but oh well...

[gunnarthor]

lol... I love Autocorrect... The Consequences of it are something this world needed.

 

My Mother In Law texted me asking how my Anniversary Date with my wife went.

 

I replied... We had a nice Dinner and she said that I never show affection in Public so I had no choice but to "kill" her in the middle of the restaurant in front of everybody.

 

When the Police arrived... I had to call for my wife to come home and show that she is indeed alive. She had to produce ID for them.

So that'll make Thanksgiving dinner awkward ...

[Riverbrian]

you'd have thought the "in front of everybody" comment would have tipped her off to the mistake, but oh well...

The First Text That Day from my mother in law was... "What do you have planned for your anniversary?"

 

I Meant to text "I'm taking her out... Someplace nice".

 

"Taking" got changed to "Eating".

 

She didn't respond back to that.

 

My Favorite was the Taco Shells exchange... My Mother in Law was going to make Taco's for my Family. She was at the store and texted me "give me a count on how many taco shells are left".

 

I texted back... Just one... That is your Count"

 

The Autocorrect changed the word "count"

 

Yes... I've made the wise move and stopped texting my Mother-in-Law going forward.

[diehardtwinsfan]

if you are in the mood for some autocorrect humor.... www.damnyouautocorrect.com

[kab21]

I think Morales might be a lost cause by this point. I'm sure they'll have him do something in Latin America this off season but he shouldn't be going to the AFL.

Latin players always go to to the DWL or VWL and American (CA and sometimes AU as well) players go to the AFL. edit - American players also go to the Latin American leagues.

 

So Arcia isn't bound for the AFL either.

[Badsmerf]

Latin players always go to to the DWL or VWL and American (CA and sometimes AU as well) players go to the AFL.

 

So Arcia isn't bound for the AFL either.

I thought they were thinking about changing the winter leagues.

[kab21]

I thought they were thinking about changing the winter leagues.

Have you heard anything other than getting out of Venezuela because of the security concerns?

[Badsmerf]

No, I just remember the grumblings about the dissatisfaction with the winter leagues last year. Maybe it was just about Venezuela, but I thought the DWL wasn't a serious league and the Twins weren't high on it.