DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Jepsen is literally the worst RP traded so far. Mike Sixel and d-mac 2
drjim Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015  Underwhelming. A nice complementary guy having a down season but I hope he's not the only addition. I think he would be an acceptable second reliever added.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Â Underwhelming. A nice complementary guy having a down season but I hope he's not the only addition.He's better than anyone else in the bullpen beyond Perkins. Â The deal is contingent on what they gave up. Â Given the price of difference makers, I'm glad the Twins aren't overly eager to deal from their minor league depth. Â (And this is colored by my belief that the Twins are really only pseudo-competitive, and really wouldn't ahve much playoff longevity even if they make the wildcard.) d-mac 1
JaleelWhite FanClub Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Who the heck is Kevin Jepson?
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Â He's better than anyone else in the bullpen beyond Perkins. Â The deal is contingent on what they gave up. Â Given the price of difference makers, I'm glad the Twins aren't overly eager to deal from their minor league depth. Â (And this is colored by my belief that the Twins are really only pseudo-competitive, and really wouldn't ahve much playoff longevity even if they make the wildcard.)I agree but the Twins need at least two guys better than everybody they have to stabilize the bullpen.
TheLeviathan Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Not energizing but better than nothing.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Â I agree but the Twins need at least two guys better than everybody they have to stabilize the bullpen.Right. Â There's also August, if the Twins remain competitive. Though we could use that bullpen arm, now. Brock Beauchamp 1
snarkerbarnyard Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 I saw on twitter that the Marlins are taking offers on Carter Capps, the guy with a 17 k/9. I could see Loria trying to dump more salary on someone to take him. He got almost nothing for latos or haren.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) LaVelle E. Neal III ‏@LaVelleNeal 2m2 minutes agoTwins will send Rays Chin-Wei Hu and Alexis Tapia Hu is too much, damn. Jepson is arb eligible again this winter, but I feel we could have gotten a better RP for him.  I think this is a seller's market for sure. Edited July 31, 2015 by PseudoSABR
Trevor0333 Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) I don't mind Jepsen, would be nice to see Benoit type as well. I just hope they can upgrade at catcher. Be a little bold Terry, go get Lucroy! Edited July 31, 2015 by Trevor0333
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 ???? Jays are mostly acquiring long term assets back....mostly, not totally. The Astros are filled with young guys, this isn't some aging team. HitInAPinch 1
Whammy Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited)  ???? Jays are mostly acquiring long term assets back....mostly, not totally. The Astros are filled with young guys, this isn't some aging team. I think the Astros have made this deadline extra frustrating. We were in the same boat in 2012. Same boat in 2013. Same boat in 2014. Same boat in March. Same boat in May. Same boat in early July. The Twins are not doing moves because "we don't want to mortgage the future", but I don't think we'd say that Houston seems to have mortgaged anything, yet they have significantly improved their potential playoff team while we sit here with essentially the same potential playoff team as we had 3 weeks ago. Edited July 31, 2015 by amjgt KGB 1
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Padres haven't done anything yet....something big is coming. Hopefully for the Twins.
Whammy Verified Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 As of 2 hours ago, I'd heard of 5 of these guys.Â
Tcrose3636 Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Sooo, will the big losers of the day be the Padres? Holding on to just about everybody because they thought they were holding all the chips. Mike Sixel and HitInAPinch 2
Tcrose3636 Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited) Heard earlier that the Padres were insisting that Mateo be included in the Kimbrel deal....then is sounds like the Yankees included him, but the Padres thought they could do better....yikes no wonder the Padres didn't deal anybody (as of now, I know stuff could still be rolling in). Edited July 31, 2015 by Tcrose3636
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 Sooo, will the big losers of the day be the Padres? Holding on to just about everybody because they thought they were holding all the chips.Nice try to change the subject TR!
Tcrose3636 Provisional Member Posted July 31, 2015 Posted July 31, 2015 (edited)  Nice try to change the subject TR!lol, nice On another subject, sounds like the Padres held firm because Preller thinks they can make the playoffs  See what I did there Edited July 31, 2015 by Tcrose3636 HitInAPinch 1
drjim Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 Here's a national guy agreeing with the Twins deadline approach. I would have added a minimum of one more reliever but I don't exactly disagree. http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-mlb-trade-deadline-winners-losers-blue-jays-royals-dodgers-mets-padres-yankees/?ex_cid=story-twitter   In recent seasons, Pirates GM Neal Huntington found himself entering July with a team playing better than its roster makeup and underlying stats suggested, and the main wave of prospects still a couple of years away. So he’d respond to the pressure to buy by picking up a platoon first baseman here or a good reliever there, without touching the Gerrit Cole- or Gregory Polanco-level prospects in his farm system. It was a hedge toward his team continuing to exceed expectations without blowing up the future. And now that we’re in the future, with Pittsburgh on its way to its third playoff berth in as many years, Huntington looks pretty smart. I was a huge fan of Huntington’s customary annual head fake toward buying at the deadline, and I’m an equally huge fan of Twins GM Terry Ryan doing the same this week. The Twins, who hold the AL’s second wild-card spot at the moment but will have to hold off a very crowded field of contenders to stay there, could’ve used an upgrade at catcher, shortstop, or in the starting rotation (because everyone needs more pitching). And if Ryan had chosen to pursue that course of action, he could’ve dealt from a comic-book supervillain’s arsenal of prospects. But instead of going after Hamels or Price, he made a low-profile move for Kevin Jepsen, who’s an OK reliever, and nothing else. I like a few things about this: First, it shows faith in the young players already up and challenges Eddie Rosario and Miguel Sano to prove that they can carry a team to the playoffs now. If that works, it’s a huge psychological and perceptional boost for the franchise and those young stars. Second, even if it doesn’t work, it’s something that the Twins would’ve gone 85-77 — or wherever they end up — with only half a season of Sano and Ervin Santana, and having gotten nothing from Byron Buxton, J.O. Berrios, and Jorge Polanco. It’s easier to build when you don’t sell off all the materials you need before you’re done, and by standing pat, Ryan has set up the Twins to continue to be just fine now and absolutely bonkers in the near future.Â
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 And, how do you propose fixing catcher or short stop next year, if you are not allowed to trade?
drjim Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 ESPN hated their approach.Since I linked an ESPN article it was probably at best mixed response.
drjim Provisional Member Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015  And, how do you propose fixing catcher or short stop next year, if you are not allowed to trade? And considering a total of 2 SS (traded for each other) and 0 Cs were moved at the deadline, there wasn't exactly a huge number of those pieces floating out there.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 The article praised them for not trading for a catcher or short stop.......i assume trading for one next year would therefore be a mistake. Ergo my question, how do they fix those next year? I don't consider Grantland and ESPN the same, but fair. My point was that not everyone agrees it was a good deadline. Nothing more or less.
ashbury Verified Member Posted August 1, 2015 Posted August 1, 2015 A comic-book supervillain’s arsenal of prospects. LOL. Nice one.
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