Redmond Fired

[Hrbowski]

Here is the link:

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/05/marline-fire-manager-mike-redmond.html

[jokin]

I hope the Twins look into hiring Redmond in some capacity.

[kydoty]

All things considered, they weren't doing that bad.  But of course, you're not allowed to meet or surpass expectations in Miami. 

[jokin]

 

I hope the Twins look into hiring Redmond in some capacity.

 

How about the Ft Myers manager's job?

[gunnarthor]

I'm sure Redmond will get another chance to manage.  The Marlins job seems a bit of a rough gig - bad ownership really hurts.  I would imagine he gets a spot in the majors again and not in the minors.

[beckmt]

He will probably get another chance.  Marlin job is very tough, bad owner.

[jokin]

 

I'm sure Redmond will get another chance to manage.  The Marlins job seems a bit of a rough gig - bad ownership really hurts.  I would imagine he gets a spot in the majors again and not in the minors.

 

No doubt, true.  But given the history with the Twins and proximity of Miami to Ft Myers, it sure would be a good move to make overtures to Red-Dog for this year, with the promise of a big league spot in 2016 on the Twins staff.

[ashbury]

Yeah, I wondered at the time Redmond was hired whether it was a good career move. You never know, even at a relatively young age, when you'll get another offer. And managers are hired to be fired, everywhere. Still it had to cross his mind to just say thanks but no thanks.

[Bark's Lounge]

Redmond got screwed over. It's not surprising though. Jeff Loria is a d-bag owner. I think he believes he is a genious based upon his 2003 firing of Jeff Torborg and hiring Jack McKeon and winning the world series that season.

 

Their offseason pick-ups were overrated. Latos is coming off an injury riddled year, Haren does not have the stuff he did in his prime. Dee Gordon has worked out - but he will come back to Earth. Not to say that Dee Gordon is not a valuable baseball player.

 

Stanton's contract got Redmond fired. I don't know how Loria became a billionaire, because they way he operates his baseball club is laughable. The way he runs that team = living in a cardboard box on skid row.

 

I always liked Red-Dog, and if he finds the right spot, he could be in the same category as Joe Girardi.

 

I don't know if the Twins are a great fit for him, there are probably better fits for him elsewhere, but hell, I'd be more than elated if the Twins offered him an Assistant to the GM position/Minor League Roving Instructor - something of that nature.

 

Red-Dog will manage in the majors again.

 

If I were a hot shot managing candidate or a free agent baseball player, I would never consider signing on to be a member of the Miami Marlins. Never.

[JB_Iowa]

 

[kydoty]

 

I don't know how Loria became a billionaire, because they way he operates his baseball club is laughable. The way he runs that team = living in a cardboard box on skid row.

 

He got rich because of his incredible ability to convince people to give him things he didn't deserve.  Look at that ballpark they have.  That was one of the biggest sweetheart deals you'll ever find.  He invested nearly none of his own money in the stadium and he broke every promise he made of revitalizing the community surrounding it.  Meanwhile, Miami-Dade county will be paying $2.4 billion over the next 40 years.

[Bark's Lounge]

 

He got rich because of his incredible ability to convince people to give him things he didn't deserve.  Look at that ballpark they have.  That was one of the biggest sweetheart deals you'll ever find.  He invested nearly none of his own money in the stadium and he broke every promise he made of revitalizing the community surrounding it.  Meanwhile, Miami-Dade county will be paying $2.4 billion over the next 40 years.

Like I said he is a d-bag. Obviously, he is also a liar and a cheat... and a bad person. I am sure most MLB team owners have done some shady things business wise, I can't envision a way of making a billion dollars without cutthroating a handsome amount of people and taking a deuce on the essence of their existence.

 

Loria is bad for baseball. George Steinbrenner looks like Santa Claus compared to that clown.

 

He needs to go, and I don't give a Rat's Ass about the Marlins, but their fans deserve better. Major League Baseball deserves better.

[ashbury]

 I can't envision a way of making a billion dollars without cutthroating a handsome amount of people and taking a deuce on the essence of their existence.

In fairness, some billions are made due to the incredible leverage that is possible in today's global economy. The effect on the people you mention is the same, but they aren't specifically targeted. For instance when Amazon.com got big, and made their founders rich, a lot of middle-class jobs went away because shopkeeping suddenly wasn't as valuable. The scale of this is something Adam Smith simply had no way of anticipating, and yet our economic theory is still guided by his world of blacksmiths and general store owners.

[diehardtwinsfan]

Someone will want to keep naked batting practice going.

[Otto von Ballpark]

Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal Marlins still paying Guillen; this is final year of his four-year, $10M contract. Redmond signed two-year extension through ’17 last Sept.

[blairpaul715]

 

Yeah, I wondered at the time Redmond was hired whether it was a good career move. You never know, even at a relatively young age, when you'll get another offer. And managers are hired to be fired, everywhere. Still it had to cross his mind to just say thanks but no thanks.

I think in Redmond's case he has to take the first job offered, his name was not really out there as far as managerial candidate when he was hired, if i remember right , he was someone thought would be a good manage SOMEDAY, so now he has had his chance and i think most people believe he did a good job and will be a manager again in a couple yrs if not sooner, but now for the next 2 plus yrs, he can take any job he wants and will still get paid, or no job at all.

[Hrbowski]

 

Like I said he is a d-bag. Obviously, he is also a liar and a cheat... and a bad person. I am sure most MLB team owners have done some shady things business wise, I can't envision a way of making a billion dollars without cutthroating a handsome amount of people and taking a deuce on the essence of their existence.

 

Loria is bad for baseball. George Steinbrenner looks like Santa Claus compared to that clown.

 

He needs to go, and I don't give a Rat's Ass about the Marlins, but their fans deserve better. Major League Baseball deserves better.

Their players deserve better, as well as their coaching staff.

[JB_Iowa]

Interesting perspective from Ken Rosenthal:

 

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/miami-marlins-owner-jeffrey-loria-fires-mike-redmond-revenue-sharing-051715

[Hrbowski]

 

Interesting perspective from Ken Rosenthal:

 

http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/just-a-bit-outside/story/miami-marlins-owner-jeffrey-loria-fires-mike-redmond-revenue-sharing-051715

He is also paying Jarrod Saltalamacchia. I had forgotten about that, but when I read that I was not surprised...

[jokin]

 

He is also paying Jarrod Saltalamacchia. I had forgotten about that, but when I read that I was not surprised...

 

Yep, and Loria barely beat out Terry Ryan for Salty's services.

[Hrbowski]

 

Yep, and Loria barely beat out Terry Ryan for Salty's services.

I thought they preferred Pierzynski to Salty all along, and when they couldn't get him they went and got Kurt.

[biggentleben]

 

I think in Redmond's case he has to take the first job offered, his name was not really out there as far as managerial candidate when he was hired, if i remember right , he was someone thought would be a good manage SOMEDAY, so now he has had his chance and i think most people believe he did a good job and will be a manager again in a couple yrs if not sooner, but now for the next 2 plus yrs, he can take any job he wants and will still get paid, or no job at all.

 

I would bet he's on ESPN's or MLB's set by the end of the month.  The Braves actually had strong interest in bringing Redmond in as a possible coach at the major league level or AAA manager before the Marlins hired him, and with Fredi Gonzalez's contract up at the end of the season, it wouldn't surprise me if those two had a conversation again.

[jokin]

 

I thought they preferred Pierzynski to Salty all along, and when they couldn't get him they went and got Kurt.

 

AJ rejected them early on, and then they went after Salty.

[JB_Iowa]

I think I saw that his extension runs through 2017 so he has lots of time for his next move.

[Bark's Lounge]

In all reality. Redmond is lucky to get out of that **** hole. He'll be okay. From the outside looking in, he actually did a good job down there. Hell, Redmond's 43-44, his post baseball player career is just getting started.

[h2oface]

 

How about the Ft Myers manager's job?

Great idea. Jeff Smith is out of date. 

[jokin]

 

Great idea. Jeff Smith is out of date. 

 

The Twins made an excellent hire in getting former Cubs manager, Mike Quade to replace Glynn. It's time for Smith to move on, Redmond would be a nice shot in the arm for a mostly unheralded, under-performing group in Ft Myers.  Going forward, Red-Dog would be nice to have join Quade in the managerial mix should there be further turnover in the front office (How long does Terry Ryan stick around past the completion of the rebuild?, his leaving could start the dominoes to tumble, perhaps Molitor moves upstairs in that scenario).

[Bark's Lounge]

 

The Twins made an excellent hire in getting former Cubs manager, Mike Quade to replace Glynn. It's time for Smith to move on, Redmond would be a nice shot in the arm for a mostly unheralded, under-performing group in Ft Myers.  Going forward, Red-Dog would be nice to have join Quade in the managerial mix should there be further turnover in the front office (How long does Terry Ryan stick around past the completion of the rebuild?, his leaving could start the dominoes to tumble, perhaps Molitor moves upstairs in that scenario).

I believe Molitor to be entrenched in the managerial position. Things are going pretty well right now for the big league club, I can't see how you could disagree.

 

If Redmond is to have a position in the Twins Org. it will have to be as Roving instructor or Assistant to the GM and I hope this happens.

 

For this season at least, I do not see the Twins relieving Jeff Smith of his duties and I would doubt that Red-Dog would accept that position considering where he is coming from and the decent job he did with the Marlins.

 

Who knows, maybe next year a MLB coaching position opens up for him, that is why I am not so sure the Twins are a good destination for Redmond. If I were Redmond I might attach myself to Mike's home state team the Mariners. Lloyd's team isn't running up to standards. You never know, things could open up there.

[jokin]

 

I believe Molitor to be entrenched in the managerial position. Things are going pretty well right now for the big league club, I can't see how you could disagree.

 

If Redmond is to have a position in the Twins Org. it will have to be as Roving instructor or Assistant to the GM and I hope this happens.

 

For this season at least, I do not see the Twins relieving Jeff Smith of his duties and I would doubt that Red-Dog would accept that position considering where he is coming from and the decent job he did with the Marlins.

 

Who knows, maybe next year a MLB coaching position opens up for him, that is why I am not so sure the Twins are a good destination for Redmond. If I were Redmond I might attach myself to Mike's home state team the Mariners. Lloyd's team isn't running up to standards. You never know, things could open up there.

 

Molly's doing a fine job, indeed.    However, he may end up doing such a good job that Terry Ryan may feel comfortable enough in handing over some or all of his current duties to Paul, when he feels the timing is right.    Like Ryan, Paul isn't getting any younger, and a move upstairs and away from all of the travel might be very appealing to him in a couple more years.    If that turns out to somehow be the case,   I would definitely want Redmond on the short list of managerial candidates.

[Bark's Lounge]

 

Molly's doing a fine job, indeed.  However, he may end up doing such a good job that Terry Ryan may feel comfortable enough in handing over some or all of his current duties to Paul, when he feels the timing is right.  Like Ryan, Paul isn't getting any younger, and a move upstairs and away from all of the travel might be very appealing to him in a couple more years.  If that turns out to somehow be the case, I would definitely want Redmond on the short list of managerial candidates.

I'd certainly would want Red-Dog to be on the short list also, and honestly, I would want him to be the manager in that scenario, but Molitor is going nowhere, Paul may be 58 going on 59, but I think he has something to prove to himself as a manager.

 

If what you proposed happens, my socks would be blown off. But as they say, anything is possible. My guess is that Molitor puts in at least 5 years.