Article: Should the Twins Consider a Six-Man Rotation?

[Jeremy Nygaard]

Does anyone know if there's such a thing as an "injury settlement" in the major league baseball CBA if a player calls it a career in the middle of a contract?  I know there is in football.  Thinking in terms of Pelfrey.

 

I don't believe there is a settlement, but teams insure a lot of deals. So if they have insurance on that deal, the Twins are recouping some/most/all of the lost money. 

 

But usually that's only if you miss an entire season, which Pelfrey never has...

[Monkeypaws]

The Twins really, REALLY need to give Mays and Meyer their taste of MLB this season. 

 

The learning opportunity is just too huge to be wasted.

[Mr. Brooks]

Wow, a 6 man rotation that STILL doesn't include Meyer?

 

We must have one of the best rotations in baseball if we don't have room for Meyer on a 6 man pitching staff.

 

Serious question Seth, how many SP's deep would our rotation have to go to have room for Meyer in it? Whatever that answer is, I vote for that. 

 

Meyer is a very tall pitcher, even once he's "ready" he will always have a high'ish walk rate. I don't understand using this as an argument why he's not ready. He is dominating AAA, I don't get it. 

[DocBauer]

I like this idea a lot Seth. Don't remember which thread, but I mentioned this idea a few days ago. Easy to do in September, harder to do in August. But I don't think you HAVE to go to a 13 man staff to pull it off in August either. I think the Twins bullpen, 6 in this case, solid overall, should be able to handle any load placed on them. If something goes terribly awry, you can always put one of the starters in for an inning and skip a bullpen, or if it goes really awry, just switch back to a 5 man rotation.

 

Sooner or later, Meyer needs to come up, get a taste of the ML's, even if it's September and out of the pen. The reason I like the 6 man is it allows guys like May and Meyer to get in their work and experience without pushing their IP limitations, while still keeping Hughes, Gibson and Nolasco getting their work, and at least one other option, obviously. (2 until Meyer is up)

[DocBauer]

I don't get the dislike for Darnell. He's not Meyer or May, but he looks like he could reasonably be a mid-rotation type starter. He's not your typical 5th starter that this team like so much.

 

I also don't understand the dislike. He's got a decent build, decent velocity, and at least potentially OK stuff. His milb track record is generally solid. Plus, he's not a guy who's best seasons are in the past and lower down the ladder. In fact, his first full season in AAA, this year, is probably his best season. Isn't that a positive sign?

 

In his uneven but very brief appearances so far this season, he has shown velocity and gotten some SO's. Even in his short and poor first start, he still managed 7 K's. If the rotation doesn't work out, he might be a nice bullpen option. A younger, possibly harder throwing version of Duensing?

[DocBauer]

Next season the Twins will have:

Nolasco- 32

Hughes- 29

Gibson- 27

Meyer- 25

May- 25

Pelfrey- 31

 

At AAA:

Sean Gilmartin- 25

Logan Darnell- 26 

 

and some combination of:

Taylor Rogers- 24

Tyler Duffey- 24

Jason Wheeler- 24

DJ Baxendale- 24

JO Berrios- 21

Return in a trade

MiLB FA

MLB FA

 

Pino- 31

Johnson-30

 

I think it's a pretty safe bet one or both are DFA'd this winter.  They are what they are, two old journeymen pitchers.  Those aren't exactly hard to come by.

 

Add Milone to the top of that list now, making it even deeper with more options.

 

And the various Rochester options has to make you excited!

 

There are at least a couple questions regarding the ML rotation, as well as vast potential that is, unfortunately still potential. But that is always the case, of course. But if you can't look at those SP options and not be at least a little bit excited, you'd better get your pulse checked!

[WLFINN]

Maybe Meyer and May will debut on the 23rd for the doubleheader.

[USAFChief]

Maybe Meyer and May will debut on the 23rd for the doubleheader.

If that's the case, make it the nightcap, please.

[Paul Pleiss]

great idea. 6-man rotation gets more arms chances to throw against MLB competetion and more rest for guys coming back from injury. No sense throwing guys out there every 5 days just to watch the team lose 90 games. More arms, more rest, more better.

[ashbury]

A problem I see with evaluating 40-man talent in August/September as part of a 6-man rotation, is that you learn what they can do in the context of 6 or 7 days between starts, which is not the context you care about.

[Willihammer]

A problem I see with evaluating 40-man talent in August/September as part of a 6-man rotation, is that you learn what they can do in the context of 6 or 7 days between starts, which is not the context you care about.

Maybe not ideal but I say its a lot better context than say, spring training.

[ashbury]

Maybe not ideal but I say its a lot better context than say, spring training.

IMO not many roster decisions should be made on spring numbers or "hunches" either.

[jay]

I don't see the need for a sixth man in the rotation. Take Pino out of the August rotation and put Darnell in the September pen.