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The Bengals already have two wins though. The Jets would have to play them twice.
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Man, the Bengals have some top end skill players, and they can't do anything. Bad QB and even worse OLine. Sounds like what is going on with our Vikings, yet the Vikings are exponentially better somehow. The Broncos are clearly better, but it's fun to see that they are average at best. For always and ever cheering against Sean Payton.
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Bad owners make bad decisions.
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I don't think manager pay is going to be an issue. Data on manager salaries is sparse but World Series champ AJ Hinch at 1.2M is the 16th highest paid manager. Only 12 guys make more than 2M and 14 are at 1.2M or less. https://frontofficesports.com/highest-paid-mlb-managers/ These guys just aren't getting paid any longer: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/columnist/bob-nightengale/2023/10/08/major-league-baseball-managers-grossly-underpaid/71106218007/ Baldelli is already near the bottom of the payroll scale and they're willing to eat his salary. Sure, with what they probably aren't talking Joe Maddon out of retirement but I doubt anyone expected that anyway. Whether they pay the manager 800K or 1.2M, it's probably going to be the same guy anyway. -
Hold on here, I just read the presser, and I think we all missed a big distinction. This was announced by Joe Pohlad('s AI). This wasn't announced by Derek Falvey. Looking back, I can see that Terry Ryan announced the Gardenhire firing and Dave St. Peter and Thad Levine announced the Paul Molitor firing. Ownership hasn't done these announcements in the past. So for those upset Falvey is still here; this may not have been his call, and it may indicate he doesn't have the leash people resenting his presence suggest he has.
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Well that would be good wouldn't it? Either get a really good manager that's capable of turning things around or one bad enough to cause even more changes.
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Derek Falvey’s Pitch for Hope in Twins Territory
nicksaviking replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
“I think that when I look out at this team and I see a group that's really young, that's still learning, that's still growing, that is going through some pains and moments in time," Falvey said. But I also see a lot of players that are taking those steps forward.” This rings a bit differently now that he's fired the manager the day after the season is over. I want a clean house, but implying the the current manager and coaches aren't the ones to help the young guys with the 'learning', 'growing' and 'steps forward' is at least encouraging that he recognizes the problem. It will be more telling when we hear what kind of people are getting interviewed. If the young guys are supposed to be the foundation, it has to be somebody with a clear history of instruction and development over someone who prioritizes rote commitment to conventional baseball wisdom. -
I'd like Falvey replaced as well. I presume he had some influence over Baldelli's micromanaging, but I have no idea how much. The one thing I can say for Falvey that I can't say for Baldelli, is that Falvey pivots and often. We go from control pitchers who can't miss bats, to flame throwers who are too wild. Then pivot to a pretty solid meld of the two approaches. We go from Bomba Squad that strikes out too much, then to focusing on OBP. Then they try the Bomba Squad again with next to no success and immediately get low strikeout, high contact players. Offensively it hasn't worked, mostly because they can't develop their own hitters, but he does change it up. If he can't or won't change the MLB development areas of the team, you're right, we're stuck back at square one, but I think there's a reasonable chance he understands this needs to change.
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Yeah, Falvey should be replaced too. But I know Joe Pohlad and Rocco Baldelli are terrible fits for this organization, I'm only pretty sure that Falvey is. He's done more for the organization than the other two from what I can see. And Falvey does get credit in my book for modernizing this dinosaur of an organization after Terry Ryan anchored the team to the back of the pack in terms of any kind of innovation for three decades. He should go, but not because the old school anti-math crowd would rather watch the team lose playing 1980's style baseball instead.
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The fact that Baldelli made it seem revelatory that giving them free reign to steal bases as they saw fit, after SEVEN years on the job, says all there is that needs to be said about his development ideas. If every decision every player makes on the field has to first go through Baldelli, these guys were never going to develop proper baseball instincts.
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Yes, he most definitely is. Gardenhire was specifically chosen to replace Kelly because he was the teacher on Tom Kelly's staff and the young players responded to him. Before becoming a manager Paul Molitor freely went to spring training for decades after retiring as a player to teach and instruct the young players. It is not a coincidence that they got way more out of their young players than Baldelli ever has out of his.
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Can't decide if I want to laugh at the Falvey bit or like the fact that just because I want Baldelli replaced doesn't mean I hate him.
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The Pohlads also are at fault. But Baldelli couldn't and wouldn't develop young players. And if you're going to roll with a rebuild and young players, you have to get a manager who is willing and able to use them in any and every situation. Not someone who constantly micro manages them so they never learn when and how to trust their own natural athletic abilities.
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He can hire a spread sheet guy. The spread sheet guy just has to also be a natural teacher to develop the young players. Like Gardenhire or Molitor. Molitor wasn't an anti-spreadsheet guy, he just wasn't versed in that language.
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Right. Clemens has no business being on a rebuilding team next season. The only thing about his game that doesn't scream fluke, is his dreadful .281 OBP.
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But no other team is adding a half billion of bad business debt on to their franchises. The Twins selling below market value shouldn't impact future team sales since this is a known anomaly. Plus, won't this give other terrible mid-to-low market owners the green light to just do the same thing? Wouldn't the owners want to stop more Bear Sterns style demands for free money or else they'll ruin your economy?
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This is the only thing that makes sense to me, however, it is clear to everyone, including future prospective buyers that this is an isolated situation. No other team is adding on a half billion in debt on to their team. I don't think the Twins selling below asking price will impact future sales because the fraud being perpetrated here is now widely known. And wouldn't a rejection of the investors be a warning to Bob Nutting and other terrible men not to try the same?
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As reported, no other MLB team has debts anywhere close to 500M. This is the Pohlad's uniquely, and prehaps fraudulently taking advantage of the system and bilking the other owners out of a lot of money over the years. At the same time it is devaluing the Twins and by proxy MLB baseball. The A's and Rays have tanked payroll to help facilitate new stadiums or relocation which will benefit the league overall, this doesn't benefit anyone other than the Pohlad's.
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I've asked this question in a couple threads and I'd really like to get a different perspective. Everyone believes the Pohlad's will still slash payroll, I believe they plan to as well, but I need explained why the other owners would let them. The Twins have been taking the revenue sharing from the other billionaires for years, while clearly adding their real estate debts onto the Twins ledgers. So the other owners are in essence paying off the Pohlad's non-relate business losses. Why would these other billionaires, who don't do anything that doesn't benefit them or their interests, approve the Twins new investors without assurances from the Twins that they will re-invest their free money back into the team and therefor MLB baseball? Wouldn't the other owners just veto the new investors and force the Pohlad's to sell for less than their asking price? What is the benefit to the other owners to let the Pohlads stay and continue to operate this way? There has to be a benefit; they don't do charity.
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The Texans traded Cam Robinson to the Browns for a 6th. He wasn't elite last year but way better than Skule. Wish the Vikings would have made that move. Or just re-signed him in the off season. They knew Darrisaw wasn't going to be ready to start the year anyway.
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I wouldn't count on the minority owners to do right by the fans. But in continuing to lower payroll, what I don't understand, and what nobody else has explained, is why MLB would approve these minority owners if the Twins are just going to continue to use their revenue sharing they get from the other billionaires, to pay off their real estate losses, and not re-invest in the team. Why would the other owners give them free money that won't benefit the Twins and MLB interests as a whole? These aren't generous people, they only do anything to benefit themselves. So if the Twins are going to lower payroll even more, wouldn't the other owners say, 'Nope. We're not approving your investors. Deal with your debts like the rest of us do or sell the team.' I'm open to understanding a different point of view on this, but I haven't heard one.
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I'm not disagreeing at all. The gist of my post is that this team is so bereft of talent, players much much worse than Larnach will be retained. But Stringer was already being polite only listing 13 spots. On a normal, decently stocked team, I only count 19 players the Twins would be foolish not to protect.
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Sorry, but you don't cheer for the 'small' markets if you ever want change in the spending inequality. The Steinbrenner's will just point to the Reds and say "See, we don't need to share revenue for a small market team to win". Even though it happens about one out of every 15 World Series. And then the Pohlad's will turn around and tell the fans, "See, spending money has absolutely NO correlation to winning a World Series!!! Enjoy your 100M payroll Twins fans!"
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I mean I get it. As a MLB player he’s been pretty unimpressive. However the Twins largely don’t field MLB players so on this team, he’s basically elite.
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VIKES @ STEELERS in Ireland 9/28/25
nicksaviking replied to Parfigliano's topic in Minnesota Vikings Talk
Also the last TD drive in the 4th quarter. That late game drive was most encouraging to me since it wasn't scripted all week in practice. Compare that to the chaos that occurred in the final drive when they were forced to push it deep and to the sidelines. I think they can make the quick read passes work. The biggest obstacle is that this kind of play style lends itself to lots of screen passes, something this franchise has not been able to do since KOC took over. I really don't think the pulling lineman know who to block, they just stand around often facing the wrong direction.
