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Could/should the Twins trade Correa?
nicksaviking replied to bigdave's topic in Minnesota Twins Talk
They signed Correa before they announced they were 'right sizing' the payroll. They also announced that immediately after their first playoff series win in two decades, so the Pohald's probably (foolishly) thought building off of that positive momentum was probably a good time to cash out high on the team, but they wanted to make sure all bidders knew they were going to lower payroll to make it look even MORE attractive. Not sure I agree with the comment about Correa's prime. If he was still in his prime, this team would probably have a few more wins. As to trading him, the Twins would have to eat salary. Would they really put that kind of dead money on the payroll when they're trying to sell the team? -
Honestly, for the last decade this has probably been the healthiest rotation in the league. And for the last several years, a really good rotation. I'm giving all involved a pass with the starters this year; this was bound to happen sooner or later. Zero passes for being unable to develop enough offensive + players and continually targeting replacement level free agent bats. I am happy to dog pile on these recurring failures and call for an entire system overhaul because of it.
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That was my take away too. We was a closer last year and now this year he's throwing complete games? But now in the middle of typing this post I'm looking at his stats, and he's had ten starts and thrown 37.2 innings. So a soon to-be 22-year old with the Marco Raya treatment? That doesn't sound like ENOUGH innings to me. No idea what to make of this guy, but I wouldn't make anything about a no hitter against Murray State.
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I'm pretty practical, but I do think other managers would do better. Particularly managers that embrace the development of young players. I think one of the biggest issues this team has is bringing in Baldelli's preferred type of player, 'The Veteran Leader'. You probably don't need a roster made up of 22 'Veteran Leaders'. Going this route emphasizes bringing in outside players that are less talented on the field simply to put together a professional clubhouse atmosphere. And yes, I do think this is a big failure of the coaching staff. Sure vets on the team can show the young guys where to lean and squat, but this club has had an unusual amount of high end prospects that almost universally never come close to their potential. Obviously prospects largely fail, but some clubs are way better at avoiding such high bust rates. The coaching staff needed to propel better results from many of these players but never could. And suggesting that is the role of 'Veteran Leaders' Harrison Bader and Ty France is preposterous. Honestly, this is a lot like the end of Tom Kelly's run. He notoriously had no patience for developing young players at the end, despite his teams being largely uncompetitive. If this organization is no longer going to spend on quality free agents, it needs to once again find a Ron Gardenhire who embraces playing the cheap young players and specializing in getting the most out of them. There are definitely managers out there who are better at this and who don't automatically base decisions on seniority.
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I'm less concerned with the safety position, simply because in this age of the NFL, and Flores' system in particular, strong safeties and nickel corners are basically interchangeable play-to-play. Harrison Smith is basically the only true safety that starts, with Ward and Jackson probably his backups. With how much Flores' disguises his coverages, the SS and NB already have to be capable of doing the same job. So the fact that they brought in more traditional CBs instead of traditional safeties probably just means they wanted depth guys for those roles who perhaps skew towards better coverage over better tackling this off season. Not that I'm ever opposed to additional upgrades.
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Also, I know it's not a popular move, but this is probably a good sign that the Pohlad's are still looking to sell. Yeah, Baldelli deserves to be shown the door, but exercising his option implies it's a one year deal. Hiring a new manager will require more than a one year deal. New ownership and new regime are going to want a clean slate.
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Using your LOOGY in the 1st inning probably wasn't the best idea for the 'opener' strategy. The guy can't even hit 90 MPH; if anything, it probably helped the Milwaukee hitters warm up. I'm all for trying new things to jump start the team. Keep cranking that key, I'll tell you when when the engine starts running. Nope, that wasn't it, keep going......
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Jax threw 91-92 MPH as a starter. He couldn't strikeout anyone in the minors and had a measly 6.2 K/9 in collage. At Air Force. Pitching against weak Mountain West baseball teams. His stuff plays up because of the velocity increase. I have no interest in seeing him turn into a pitch to contact Terry Ryan special that has no business being in a 2025 MLB rotation, then watching him complain his way out of town when the team asks him to convert back to the pen. Keep him where he is. Far greater chance of disaster than reward.
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You move on, even if it's just to get the bad taste out of your mouth. You can get equally terrible free agent or waiver wire catchers for the same price or cheaper, I don't understand why there'd be any draw to keep this one. I mean, he clearly can't help the team, so at MINIMUM him being on the roster will only serve to remind the remaining players that zero effort was made to search for improvement. Low team morale isn't going to help win games; at least PRETEND to make it look like you're trying something new. I'm always confused by the fear of the unknown, and I'm doubly confused by the fear of the unknown when the known is proven to be a bad decision.
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Right, Baldelli doesn't care about winning because he's OK with getting fired? Jax as a starter is a terrible idea. His stuff isn't going to get guys out dropping 4 MPH off of his velocity. And prior to this year, the Twins rotation has probably been the the healthiest group of pitchers in the league going back a decade now. Depth is fine, but blowing up your bullpen to do it would have been foolish for this franchise.
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Right, Baldelli doesn't care about winning because he's OK with getting fired? Jax as a starter is a terrible idea. His stuff isn't going to get guys out dropping 4 MPH off of his velocity. And prior to this year, the Twins rotation has probably been the the healthiest group of pitchers in the league going back a decade now. Depth is fine, but blowing up your bullpen to do it would have been foolish for this franchise.
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I'm not trading for a catcher unless it's a top end offensive talent. And at that point, it probably gets too expensive. And I'm not trading for a backup catcher; 99% of the time that's a zero impact player in every era of the game. If there is any team that understands by now that it's a negligible difference between a below-average catcher and what's floating around on the waiver wire, it should be the Twins.
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They've needed a big bat for two years now. Didn't get one last off season, didn't get one at last year's trade deadline, didn't get one the prior offseason. So basically ever since the Pohald's publicly said they are 'right sizing'. But now they're going to pay for a contract of a big bat? No team is trading a young controllable super star.
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non-Vikings NFL off season news
nicksaviking replied to gunnarthor's topic in Minnesota Vikings Talk
I would have been interested in Pratt. Another good cover ILB is needed. Some pretty old guys left like Eric Kendricks and CJ Mosley, but not sure if they can still play both run and pass. They might still have some juice left. -
I don't have any interest in a back of the rotation starter, but to be clear, he's still available. The only reason a team with a .333 winning percentage trades for a guy like Civale is to try to flip him for a better return at the trade deadline. If he's still on the White Sox come September, their gamble didn't pay off.
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Depth or no depth, I don't see any logical scenario for a meaningful trade. Does anyone actually think the Pohlad's will take on a significant contract for the front of the rotation or the middle of the order? Because if not, then they'd have to sell the farm for a cheap and controllable established young player. And I'd find it highly unlikely that any such player would even be made available anyway. And if they aren't looking for a middle of the order bat or front of the rotation arm, don't bother. More back-end starters and platoon bats aren't going to put this team over the hump.
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I'm sure it's a snowball effect. Even if it's erroneous, if the Twins hitters are known for getting rung up on close pitches, and the pitchers are known for 'missing' on close pitches, the umpires are going to just start assuming the close ones should typically go against the Twins more than the other teams. Like how the perception is that red cars speed more often, thus red cars get pulled over disproportionately. Obviously the Twins shouldn't be punished for being good at this, it's just the most damning example of why the sheep should stop being allowed to call balls and strikes when it can easily be automated.
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In my last post I thought you were referencing 2024, not 2023, so that's my mistake on the confusion. But who cares about the adjective I used, it was like five posts ago. One useful player out of 24 draft picks is the argument, and that is not good, even if many are still TBD. I honestly can't understand how anyone can sit here an argue that his drafting has been good. Yeah, if he doesn't use the picks well, I would continue to advocate for him to trade them for more Hockensons.
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What context was omitted? That it's too early to make a definitive opinion? I didn't omit that. It doesn't change the fact that there were dozens of players drafted throughout the 2023 draft that have already shown to be valuable players and the Vikings didn't draft any of them, Knock on wood McCarthy turns out to be elite. Simply, I've said multiple times that KAM has not proven to be good at drafting but I'd still retain him. I can't imagine the only acceptable positions are either that, I have to want him gone, or I have to unconditionally applaud him.
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Stop what? Making bold moves? Isn't pretty much every post on this site describing future desires something we ourselves cannot fulfill or prevent? But if ownership truly is selling, they probably should also not want the front office making meaningful moves of prospects for veteran contracts.
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non-Vikings NFL off season news
nicksaviking replied to gunnarthor's topic in Minnesota Vikings Talk
Yeah, a lot of coaching turnover for the Lions and now Ragnow is gone along with Zeitler who left in free agency. Really feels like in 2025 is going to dictate the narrative for Dan Campbell going forward. Personally, I'm getting Doug Pederson vibes. Ten or 11 wins next season followed by Detroit's quick submersion back into being a perennially subpar team. -
Sorry no. I like many of the pitching prospects, but they aren't brining back a middle of the order bat. And this team doesn't need to add more 'eh' hitters. I also still don't want lame duck ownership and front office members making big long term decisions so a big prospect package for a better player? Nope, these guys can't be allowed to make that call.
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