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If they are sellers I wouldn’t add anyone to the 40 unless they are rule 5 candidates this off season. 40 man flexibility is important in the winter. If they are competing for a playoff spot and Jenkins can help add him.
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Your opinion on the 3 color man booth?
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Rushing to the Dodgers for a Catcher
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Bullpen is so critical in the playoffs. More critical than catcher. So many of the current Twins are controlled through 2028 like Duran. The deal is fair. They almost certainly would win this deal on paper when the WARs are calculated 6 years from now. I think it lessens the chance they will make a run in the playoffs. I wouldn’t do it.- 10 replies
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In the spring I shared a quote from the manager of the Padres about line up construction. He was asked about an alternating line up. He talked about how it can be helpful to have both left and right handed bats in the lineup and that it can keep a pitcher off rhythm.This would vary by pitcher. It probably is more effective to vary the line up when the pitch mix and approach of the lefty vary more between right and left. It made me wonder if we are missing an important piece of data. While true that Larnach isn’t hitting well against left handed pitching, what happens the next few right handed batters after Larnach? Does the pitcher lose a little effectiveness? Plate appearances are not a bunch of independent events that can be optimized by spreadsheet. I don’t know the Twins optimal line up against lefties. Long term I think they are a better team if they allow their better left handed bats some starts against lefties. Game day I wonder if they make it too easy for the left handed pitcher to get in a rhythm with the all right handed line up.
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We need a different word than snub. Snub means ignored, rebuffed or spurn disdainfully. Honestly now I need to look up rebuff and spurn to figure out if any fits. He wasn’t ignored. He wasn’t rejected in an ungracious manner. There was no disdain. He didn’t make the team though he and others that didn’t make the team were comparable to some that made it. The all star team starts with those votes in. Next the need to try to take the best player from teams not represented. That to me is clearly Byron Buxton. I don’t think Jhoan or Ryan were snubbed. That is a weighty word that makes it personal. The author ups the ante by claiming that it is not only a snub but the largest snub. Now it is really personal. Byron’s season has been better and got the honor to represent the Twins. The Twins have done nothing to earn more representation.
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It is so hard to know their motivations. Did they utilize on of their options on Woods Richardson because they saw something they could fix or did they lose faith in him? Did they send Wallner down last year on options to fix something specific or was it simply his poor hitting? Last year they gave Wallner nearly 300 PAs in AAA to get him right. Is it the same with Julien and Miranda or had they lost faith in his ability to hit. I really have no idea. If they believe in Keirsey as a hitter they need to utilize that option. Right now they are using his speed and glove in most close games and it is helping the team in those close games. It also might be lessening the likelihood he will be a fourth outfielder getting 300+ PAs a year. Perhaps they don’t see that. I hope they send him down and give him a good run in AAA.
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How do the Twins know what is the best line up? We need the Twins to have the staff that does a better job at knowing than any other staff. We also need them to fight the urge to react to all of the partial season stats and trust in their staff. If their staff is wrong it will lead to more losses. I don’t want a staff that doesn’t think they can answer that question though. That can’t lead to wins. If they have assessed that Wallner and Lewis give them the best chance to win they have to trust it. How do I know what the best line up is? I clearly don’t. My knowledge compared to the Twins knowledge would be a grain of sand on a beach. For what it is worth I thought Rocco used the thirteen position players well last week. Most found their way into games when they started on the bench. Keirsey was only used three times and all three probably improved their chance of winning. He ran for Larnach and took his spot in right field in a one run win. He ran for Jeffers and stole a base in a one run win. He ran for Vazquez in an extra inning game. I don’t think Bride (instead of Keirsey) would have been helpful anywhere last week. He could have been available to pinch hit for a left handed bat but would have been at best the third option to do so and that would be in games that Vazquez was also on the bench. I wonder if Martin would be more useful particularly in a week with a few left handed starters. I would say he would be a better option. I really appreciate the discussion. Also, that all right handed lineup I hate did pretty well last night. It is a good thing I am not in charge.
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I think all teams have something in the minors that would be an overpay for Jeffers. The Padres have one of the best prospects in baseball in Leo De Vries. There might be a buy low chance on one of the best catching prospects in baseball in Ethan Salas. Would they move either in a package for Jeffers? Probably not. But Jeffers can be had. I want Salas, Campusano and a 45 rated arm if the Twins are sellers. Give Campusano the main catching role after August 1. The hope is the change of scenery will help catcher that once top prospect talent.
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I hate the all right handed line up but if they have faced one lefty starter in the last 14 games. I hate the all right handed line up. I do think it knocks some pitchers off balance and gives us a better chance to beat that lefty if there are a couple of left handed bats in the line up. It does help the get right handed batters I don’t think a rotation or an every other day platoon is wise. Rocco spoke about match ups when deciding in Clemens or France. That is why they didn’t anlternate and each had two days off in a row. Maybe it is the same for Lee, Lewis and Castro. Rocco’s priority right now has to be to win the game in front of them. They have to fight to get back to relevance by the end of the month. Put up the line up that gives them the best chance to win today’s game. If the Twins get to August and are sellers every player on the roster that they control next year needs to get regular playing time. Until they become sellers it is playoff baseball mindset. Also… I am not trying to predict. I was just saying what I would do.
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@Riverbrian A week ago this is how I said I would utilize the roster. Here is what the Twins did with my suggestions in parentheses.. Buxton, Castro(5), Wallner and Larnach started 6 games. Larnach and Wallner alternated at DH. Castro was useful playing moving positions in three of the games. Correa(6) and Lewis started 5 games. Lewis pinch hit in one. Lee(5) and Bader(3) started 4 games. Lee pinch hit in both the other games. Bader came off the bench in one game. Vazquez(2), Jeffers(4), Clemens and France started three games. Jeffers played in the other 3 games. Vazquez was a defensive sub in one. France pinch hit in two and Clemens 1. France and Clemens appear to be platooning. Keirsey came in for defense once and pinch ran twice. I still would have a hard time finding him three starts. Any fewer doesn’t seem enough to keep him fresh and could be counterproductive. Castro took a start from Correa, Bader took one from Lee and I knew Vazquez and Jeffers would each get three starts. The Twins did utilize their bench. There were 10 times a player didn’t get in at all. Keirsey three, Vazquez and Clemens with two and Correa, France and Bader with 1. This week they will see at least one lefty and probably two. Heaney is lined up for Sunday. Would Austin Martin be more helpful in that 13th spot? Would it be easier to find three games for him to start? I can see starts against the two lefties and they can find one against right handed pitching. He can take on the pinch running duties from Keirsey and he probably has a better chance to get on base in a pinch hit role. Defense? Keirsey is better but reports from spring training about Martin’s improvement was encouraging. That defensive sub was needed once last week. The Twins can make better use of that spot.
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Yes. That is one of the dominos of the Max Muncy injury on July 2. The Dodgers really don’t have a 3B solution in the majors. They have moved one of their top prospects in Alex Freeland off of shortstop and to third base in AAA the last three games. My guess is they hope he can be at 3B in the majors after the break. Muncy is out 6-8 weeks. They have filled his AAA shortstop role with Noah Miller. Miller had a respectable 103 wRC+ in AA this year. His BABIP this year is .372 after .284 last year with .271 and .289 the years before that. Has his skill level changed or is it the random variation of BABIP in a small sample? Otherwise his walk rate is down this year and his strike rate is up. His line drive rate is virtually the same and his ground ball rate is up 10%. His singles rate is up. I suspect his move was due to the Max Muncy injury. I do look forward to seeing that glove when he gets to the majors but the bat appears to be the same question mark it was when he was with the Twins..
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Does trade Duran or Jax close the door on competing next year? It is hard to imagine them spending the money to fill the closer role in free agency. I get selling the door for this year. I don’t get selling next year. Sheehan is just returning from Tommy John with few innings pitched this year. Ryan is out this season with Tommy John. I don’t think I would count on either being a significant member of the staff in 2026 and the best predictor of pitcher injury is previous injury. They both have had significant injuries. I get that we need a catcher and the expiring contracts we have probably won’t help find that catcher. I just think the 2026 and 2027 roster will be better if they don’t make this trade. Teams can win with a mediocre catching group. Can teams win with a mediocre bullpen? Maybe Sheehan is a top closer of the future and that future is ready to begin soon. On the other hand if he is that close then maybe the Dodgers don’t trade for bullpen help and instead turn to him.
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Prospects always seem so good. Fangraphs does a good job of adding some context with their reports and future value grade. Schlittler is in AAA with a grade of 45. He might be comparable to Morris in the Twins system. Hampton has a similar grade but the Tommy John surgery should take him out of the conversation. Selvidge is in AAA with a grade of 40 which be similar to Darren Bowen in the Twins organization. Castro might be their best expiring contract trade chip. A return of a Darren Bowen type prospect would be pretty underwhelming. Andrew Morris level gets a little more interesting but I would shoot for a someone with a Dasan Hill upside that is farther away.
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Prior to the season Mick Abel had a Fangraphs future value of 40 which the describe as a back end starter with a FIP close to 5. The Twins need catchers but Ferrebus is 19 and is floundering in low A. Maybe in 2027 he finds his way to get a taste of AA at which point the Twins will need to make a rule 5 decision. I would guess his ETA is 2029 or 2030.
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The Cardinals do have some catching prospects with three in their top 6. 0ne of them has an ETA of 2029 though. Their current catcher Pages is solid defensively but has a weak bat. Herrera is their DH and third catcher and has been on the IL twice this year. He can hit but can’t throw out runners. Pozo is similar to Gasper. Teams need two catchers and I think Crooks and Bernal are their two catchers for 2026. If I were the Cardinals it would take a lot to pry away Bernal. If the Cardinals are going to trade Bernal they would do it to help them get to the playoffs and maybe win the division this year. They really need a catcher for 2025. They could use a bat and the outfield bats have been disappointing. Would you trade Keaschall for Bernal? The Cardinals would then need to move Donovan to the outfield to play Keaschall at 2B. Would you send Jeffers and hope Bernal is ready for 2026? Those trades don’t help the 2025 Twins. I wouldn’t do either of those deals now but if they still have Pages, Crooks and Bernal in the winter they would be a good team to try to match up with in a trade.
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It is difficult to distinguish between soreness and injury. A player needs to be injured to go on the IL. Two starts back Ober was saying it was mechanics and that he has pitched through much worse. If he isn’t going to acknowledge the injury and there isn’t imaging to show a clear injury then I don’t see how they can use the IL. It seems kind of similar to when Joe Ryan pitched through soreness/injury. Was there also a similar situation with Kirilloff? In that case didn’t the Twins have to option him before he would acknowledge the injury? Part of being a successful athlete is fighting through pain. Our medical staff has to help players find that line between pain and injury better.
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The Twins will need a platoon second catcher and a third catcher next year. If they are sellers at the deadline they should look to adding a younger catcher ready to be that back up. If they aren’t able to acquire that catcher with the expiring contracts they have to offer then they should give the job to Cardenas and see if his defense is good enough. His caught stealing rates are not among the best in AAA but they aren’t bad. I am not sure about the rest of his game behind the plate.
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I utilize France differently. Clemens would get his time platooning at 1B. I think France would be a great option in the bench. His success hitting with a runner in scoring position will be a good asset on the bench. I also see Correa as a .760 OPS player going forward and that with his defense is hard to take off the field when the playoffs are still a possibility. If I look at slash stats in season I look at the three season aggregate to try to project the player going forward. I don’t think anyone’s slash stats in a half season does a good job of projecting the second half.
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@Riverbrian That would keep everyone active. We both chose the route of catching Jeffers in 2/3 of the games. I was not confident that is wise but I did it on paper. I think it does get a little harder when I look at the potential pitching match ups for the week. In that case I really wanted a good defense for pretty much everyone but Ryan and then I don’t want to give Ryan a day that Correa is on the bench with Larnach or Wallner on the corners. It would think about defense a little less if Ober was pitching like we expected and Lopez was healthy. Another thing that comes up are the non-Chicago divisional games or games against teams like Seattle. These games feel like they are almost worth double and I wanted the best. I also haven’t tried to do it with every position player healthy. I look forward to that problem. When we get there I hope Lee and Lewis are playing so well that it makes it really for me to sit them one game much less two or three in a week. If they are it going to be hard to find space for all 13.
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Skubal may be the best pitcher in the game. He isn’t as great as the Twins all right handed line up made him look. That was his second best performance of the year according to game score.
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There is a lot of discussion on the Twins not utilizing Bride/Keirsey/Gasper. For the last month I have looked to the week ahead and tried to imagine how I might use 13 players. I do wonder how often does a player need to get at bats in order to stay in rhythm. I really don’t know and i am sure it varies by player. One start a series doesn’t seem like enough particularly when then start will probably be cur short for a pinch hitter. This week is the typical 6 game week. It is a little unusual as it looks to be 6 right handed starters. Priority is winning games at this level and in order to win they need their best hitters playing often and they need defense. I would start Buxton and Correa get all 6 games, The potential of their defense and gloves is too valuable. I would also start Wallner and Larnach 6 games. The Twins don’t have many left handed bats and their bats will be needed. I don’t like the outfield defense when both are out there so Bader and Castro will each get three games. Lewis and Lee are getting 5 starts and Castro will get the other two at second and third. Clemens and France will each get three at first base and be useful off the bench to pinch hit. Catcher is tough because there is usually a lefty where I can put Jeffers at DH. this week is 4 for Jeffers and 2 for Vazquez. The Twins have been extraordinarily healthy at catcher the last three seasons with their 50% play so I may be risking that health but Jeffers gets 4 games. I am not sure how I would get that thirteenth bat regular enough playing time short of injury (in which case they are really the 12th bat). Would they need at least three start for it to be relevancy. Certainly a start a week isn’t going to help with get them consistent at bats. If it were Bride I don’t think it helps to take a game from Castro or Lee or Lewis. They already have the off day and another day of rest and I am hoping Lewis or Lee are hitting so well that I want them 6 times a week. If Keirsey I suppose I could sit Wallner and Larnach each once but their power is an important element. Bader, France and Clemens are already at just three starts. I have this trouble every week. If they are facing lefty or two then I want to get Jeffers in at DH and I want Bader’s glove in the outfield an extra time. I have come to believe that the best use of that 13th spot is that of a specialist. Keirsey fits as a specialist better than Bride. I would like to think a pinch hit specialist would be valuable. It would be great to have someone that can consistently put the ball in play that you can call on with a runner in scoring position. Maybe that is a role for France as his career advances. Maybe Gasper can fit that role. It will require both effort and skill. The effort of spending a lot of time in the cage swinging the bat and the skill of hitting when coming in cold. What happens when Keaschall comes back and everyone is healthy? First that would be awesome. I think I would consider seeing how France does as my pinch hitter. Alternatively Castro in that specialist role would have the additional skill of stepping in nearly anywhere on the field in case of injury. He can pinch hit. He offers defense at several places. He can pinch run.
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For this exercise you need to suspend the inclination that the Twins wouldn’t do this deal because they won’t take on any extra salary. My interest is whether this is a deal you would do if the Twins had an owner will to add a little to the budget. It is reported in the Athletic and by Bob Nightengale that the A’s can’t wait to trade Luis Severino. Severino is not happy with the conditions of their home park. His splits show it with an ERA of 3.23 on the road and 6.79 on the road. I should add his FIP is virtually the same home/road (4.31/4.29]. Would you trade Christian Vazquez straight up for Luis Severino and take on the remainder of his three year deal? Again for this exercise assume that you are willing to add to the budget this year. Argue the merits of the deal. Maybe you do it if the A’s add prospect capital to compensate the Twins for taking on the salary obligation. Maybe you would not take on that three year obligation think Severino is done. It sounds like the A’s would be all ears.

