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  1. Trov
    Every year every team hopes their pitchers pan out for the year. You go into the year expecting health and performance even for vets. Lets say we go out and sign the top FA left on the board, or even go back and sign the top that was out there. We still have to hope they stay healthy and pitch to the level they have in the past. There are many times the vet you are counting on does not perform and you go to someone else.
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    Some luck may have played a role to get Dobnak the playoff start once he was on the roster, but luck did not get him on the roster, and luck did not keep him on the roster. He made his way up the ladder to earn his spot at the MLB level. There was a number of other pitchers in our organization. It is not like every other pitcher in the organization had not chance. To say it was all luck that Dobnak made it to the majors and that he started the playoff game takes away from him working his way up the organization.
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    Santana's contract is one of many vets that get long term deal that is very lopsided to the player. He is not the exception but a common outcome. Just look at many of the recent long term deals, most of the time 1 or 2 years are good for the player, the rest are either injuries, or poor play. There are the few that actually play to the value of the contract for most of it.
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    I keep reading comments about how if Twins do not go out and sign big FA starter we will be terrible going with, unproven pitchers. I am not saying we should expect much from them, but in 2019 Cleveland leaned heavy on 3 unproven pitchers. Entering the season two of their top pitchers, Kluber and Carrasco preformed poorly overall and health limited them. This required they had to go to backup options their less experienced guys. Beiber, Pleasak, Civale all stepped up, each were all 24 and only Beiber had any MLB experience. Bauer and Clevenger helped carry the main load, until Bauer was traded mid-season. The commenters keep saying without proven starters no way will Twins compete, and maybe that will hold true, but Cleveland showed they did not need a full slate of established vets to win. Players need to get a chance at some point. Sure, it is not a perfect comparison because Clevenger had great year, and Bauer was decent so they were leaning on the guys to be back of rotation parts for half the year. The point I am making is to say no way can you trust young guys to come in and perform is not always the case.
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    I agree, he was still under the same requirements of the rule 5 draft even with the trade. Had we sent him down he would have been offered back to original team he was taken from. I do not recall who did take him and trade him but I am sure their fans do not talk about how great of a rule 5 pick they made. Most likely it was how big of bone head decision not to keep him as the pick. In NBA draft day trades do not get ratified until after the draft so when a team trades a pick, the team trading away the pick, picks for the receiving team, but everyone knows who is actually making the pick.
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    I personally think the pitching in the system is a good thing. I know many believe we cannot go into next year with so many untested guys, but at some point they need to be tested. They are all starting to get into mid-20's which is when you really want to know what you have. I say give them a shot, see what you have and if you feel you need go out and trade mid-season for someone. I am never a fan of long term deals on any age pitcher but even more so on a 30 ish pitcher. I know many want to spend everything you can to fill the rotation, but that does not guarantee they will live up to the money you throw at them. Pitchers are so volitile and one injury can derail a great career. Sometimes they just lose some velo and never learn how to adjust to that. Very few big time pitching deals do you look back and say that was a good deal for the team, normally the pitcher lives up to the deal for 1 to 3 years then the last few are very overpaid and you are stuck paying a guy that may be pitching out of your pen, but you just keep hoping they find the old stuff and getting rocked while they cash huge pay checks. Also, having the top pitchers in the league does not mean we will win anything, it only helps. I have always been have a good floor and talent across the staff, not just a few top arms because they only pitch so often.
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    Gore could be a guy that breaks out. He would not be the first SS turned pitcher, some make it some do not. The fact that he is older means not much prospect left in him, but it also means his arm has not had thousands of pitches thrown over his career and maybe could hold up later. Not saying I am expecting much, but you never know.
  8. Trov
    I just wanted to comment on the trade aspect. I find the value of corner OF very low. Unless they are top hitter and fielder. If they are just a good hitter or good fielder they are easy to find replacements. Of course elite hitters have value, but you are not trading them away unless you have several elite hitters in those spots. Even then, you can normally use them as DH or 1B to get their bat in the line up. They can be part of deals, but I personally do not think corner OF should be part of a deal unless they are elite, and then you are not trading them unless you are selling.
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    Palacios is less of a prospect and just a possible player for a couple of years. He is entering his prime and could have a few good years at MLB level if given a shot, but you should not expect him to play too many years. I say give him a shot see what he can do. He may be a couple year stop gap, and if impresses enough some team might want him via trade if we have a SS ready to go.
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    Of other note, both Bert and Brad are known for giving up a ton of HR. They both were great, because they limited runners on base when they gave up those HR. I remember Brad was in a commercial because of the amount he gave up.
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    If team is willing to take a gamble and no one in rule 5 jumps out at the them it may be worth that. You get the rehab year to decide what you think of him, then he either gets a shot or you offer back, which Twins may not want to take him if health may be an issue. The big issue is having to have him use up a 40 man spot in offseason with nothing to work off of other than what he did during rehab, and that is a big risk.
  12. Trov
    The article asks if he will start the season at MLB level. Unless there is a trade or injury, I would say no. I would not move someone just to make room for him. Yes, he had a great year last year in minors, but do we know he will replicate it, let alone at the majors? Many times players have a break out year then regress, not saying he will, but it is not like he was a number 1 prospect and we were just waiting for it to all click. At some point there will be injury to one of our infielders and then he will get his shot. If there is a trade to be had that makes room, cool, but you should not just ship someone away because you have some depth. Remember when we dealt J.J. Hardy because we thought we had someone to replace him? We got crap in return and his replacement was terrible.
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    Danny Duffy for the Twins.

    Trov commented on Greglw3's blog entry in Greg Allen

    Teams have to be able to talk to each other during the lock out. They will have to decided on a CBA to end it. Manfred is only the voice from the teams, but the teams owners need to vote. They clearly would be able to discuss trades and the like as well. They can trade and sign minor league guys that are not on 40 man rosters as well because they are not MLBPA people. The lockout just prevents doing business with players or doing actual trades of them, but teams can discuss frameworks of deals. My guess is when the lockout ends, you will hear many trades happen and within a few days a lot of signings. I do not expect the lockout to end until at least March, because neither side is looking at losing money until then.
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    I think the article should be edited from "if Buxton gets hurt" to "when Buxton gets hurt". We all know it will happen. That being said it appears we have people that could fill in the spot during that time on the 40 man roster. We will have to see if they can hold their own at the plate though. I also wonder why Kepler is being called one of most valuable trade assets. He is getting near end of prime, has never been more than an average offense guy, with a few stints of hot runs, and a top defender. I think people on here are overvaluing corner OF guys. I would say 2 years ago he would have been a top trade chip based on contract and what he did and thoughts he may grow. However, 2 years later he has regressed and not grown as hoped. I like Kepler just fine and would be fine keeping or trading, but he is not going to bring in good pitching. He will bring in a guy from a team rebuilding because Kepler would not be there once rebuild is done. He will not bring in someone from a team ready to win now because those teams will not give up MLB ready pitching because they will need it to win now. Maybe, he could bring in a near ready prospect from a team that has super depth and ready to win now. He could be part of a deal but would not be the main piece coming from Twins for any MLB ready starters.
  15. Trov
    Baseball is and has always been a game of adjustments. Many players when they come up without much scouting will get fastballs. Then as they show they can hit them breaking balls will start to come more often until they show they can either hit them, or stay off of them. At-bats are like mini chess matches. Pro hitters can hit just about any pitch if they know it is coming. Pitchers will always try to keep them off balance and not let them know what is coming. If he can either learn to stay off off the non-fastballs or have a better mind of how to attack non-fastballs that are in the zone. Really much of it is figuring out how he is being pitched and try to sit on a pitch you expect. It took Buck several years to reach his offense potential, give Larnach some time.
  16. Trov
    The big question is what will Rondon be looking for. A big red flag for me is that he was not given a QO. To me that means Sox were worried he would take it and they would have to pay him 18 mil for 1 year. Why would Sox be worried about 18 mil for 1 year on a guy that was on way to possible Cy Young Award? I think there is a lot more to the injury than we all know, else he would have been no brainer for QO.
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    Sabato has been someone I was following. I was not a fan of the pick when we made it, mainly because I am not a fan of bat only guys in first round unless they are super elite. When Sabato started off so poor, I wanted to know more about his numbers. His OBP was high but average and slugging low. Numbers do not tell the full story. I wondered is it FGL issue, which is know for sapping power, was it not being aggressive, was it not getting much to swing at? Then they moved him up and he had a great stint. Is that who we should be expecting or was it short sample in new league without facing him before? The walk rate is encouraging and hopefully he is not taking good pitches to swing at just to work the count. I am hoping he does break out and forces the Twins to move him up to AA quickly and maybe even end year in St. Paul.
  18. Trov
    SS is a position similar to catcher. Very rarely will you have a top defense guy that can also hit elite. You normally need to find the balance between offense and defense. Personally, I would let Martin and Lewis fight it out for SS in whatever spring training looks like.
  19. Trov
    I agree with this. First, I have not heard much on a floor, and I cannot see the owners agree to a floor without a cap of some kind. In other leagues the floor has a cap and both are established based on revenue. First, I know the writer just threw out 100 for a number, but I agree it would be no where near that, at least not out the gate. That would force some teams to spend a ton on lower level FA as many higher ones have signed and the teams with that low of payroll are not going to be signing correa just because they have to spend the money, unless he 100% going after most money. I agree most lower teams would then lock up their younger guys to front loaded contracts to comply if they needed to act right away, and not take on bad vet contracts, unless the offers were good enough. Second, I would take Padres off list, because I do not think they are over the tax number yet. Sure would they love to save some money and dump those bad contracts yes, but they are not giving up their top prospects to do it. Unless they had plans to sign a top FA by cutting those contracts, but I doubt that is their idea. The Mets may want to cut some money for the Tax but if they really had that in mind they would not have signed who they did this year already. Sure, if Twins came and said we will take Cano off your hands, maybe throw in Bonilla, Mets may give up a mid-level guy but not top prospects. I like the outside the box thinking on this, but I highly doubt any team will give up a top prospect or good young players just to dump some bad contracts. Unless the CBA forces their hand to do so for some reason, but again, I highly doubt any major changes to a floor, cap, or tax level would go into full affect but would go in slowly over the next couple of years.
  20. Trov
    When he was traded to Giants I said he will have problems there. When he went to Sox, I said dang he will do well there. The Giants were a team of old school vets lead by an old school manager that was all about business. For the most part, none of them like each other, I remember hearing Bonds was terrible teammate and Jeff Kent was hard to get along with too. A.J. was the type of guy that liked to push buttons of people, and so when he is on a business team and not a lets have fun team, he could not be himself. When he went to Sox, they were much more be yourself, have fun, team kind of set up. At least that is how I saw them compared to Giants. I have long said in baseball chemistry and getting along with your team is very important for success. I say this because in a normal year, you hope to spend every day with your team from mid-February to November. When about half your off-days are on the road even then you have little time away from team. If you do not like your team, you will start to hate working every day, and then you head is not in the game. I feel that may have been what happened with AJ in San Fran.
  21. Trov
    I feel just about every team that has huge success there is always a couple of guys that surprise with output. Sometimes it is a rookie, or a breakout year from someone, or a vet that has a career year. Maybe Megill will become one of those guys.
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    When I first saw headline I thought no way, but when you lay out his career and everything, I think he very well does deserve it. He will not make it for a couple of reasons though. One, he is not know to be a likable guy, which gives voters a negative view of him. The other reason, is he never was considered the best during his time, but he was always very good. He held up at catcher much longer than many do, and despite not being a huge threat on offense due to not high power numbers he was still never a fun guy to face. In the era of pitch counts he would have double digit pitch at-bats from time to time. He was always just steady but never wowed anyone. If you compare his numbers to many catchers he is better than most. I am not sure if he will make past year 1, unless people really take time to look at him.
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    As someone who had an ACL repair, after about 6 months of rehab you can do just about anything you did before physically, it is the mental side that you need to overcome. If he has been rehabbing well he should be good to go by time season starts. As long as he is willing to go all out physically he should be fine.
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    I think fans need to remember that catcher is a position that you normally do not get a lot of offense from. The catchers that are good on offense normally lack defense and do not stay at catcher by time they get to MLB level. Only the few do both well. What will be interesting to see is if an electronic zone starts being used, if that will change how people look at catchers. The framing part will no longer be a thing, and really you should just need someone who can throw out runners and call a good game. However some catchers still look to dugout for pitch calls sometimes. That being said, I hope Jeffers can hold his own at the plate for a few years.
  25. Trov
    Oliva should have been in long before. He was knocked for his counting numbers being low. However, other guys made it in despite their counting numbers being low. I would point to Sandy Koufax and Kirby Puckett as a guy that Oliva should have been compared, despite the difference of position. Koufax had bad early career and retired at his peak at age of 30 due to health issues. He had a stretch of the best pitcher in baseball and retired during that time. Similar to Puckett to. Puckett's production really was not dropping off and showed top player for long stretch before health ended his career short too. Where Oliva tried to play through his injury and he retired on a down note. I strongly believe had his injury ended his career completely he would have been in much earlier. However, he tried to keep playing and was a decent player, but not the same as before. If you take his last few seasons off and the injury would have been what ended his career he would have got the what if push, like Puckett and Koufax, but Olivia ended on a low note, where the others ended on high notes. I am glad both finally got in, as I think both deserved it. I truely feel if Twins would have beat Dodgers in 65 Kaat gets labeled as one of best in game at the time and that would have pushed him over the edge, but Koufax was unhitabble and Kaat pitched great, just not as good.
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