Mike Sixel
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He didn't say that, though I agree with you. I think his point stands. They want winning because it generates more profit.....
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Which other starting pitcher was traded that was good, or signed as a FA (how much more do we think the budget could be?)?
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But he wasn't. It wasn't an option.
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Nygaard Mock Draft v. 2.0
Mike Sixel replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Wow, Clark falling to 10? That would be a dream scenario for some team if you could trade draft picks...... I'm good with Teel. I'm good with Lowder. I'm good with Clark. Any of those three if the draft fell this way (I clearly only go by what I read.....). -
The value is irrelevant (mostly) unless they plan to sell. I do agree, though, that this idea that the owner, FO, and manager and players (I've seen all of them mentioned, repeatedly) don't care about winning is ridiculous. Utterly.
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Not last year, Because Berrios wasn't on the team.
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It's also ok to like the trade. Me? I'm unsure....but here was the calculus.... Arraez and ? OR Lopez and Polanco and/or Gordon and/or Julien (depending on if Arraez is 2B or DH, as I assume AK is 1B). Plus two minor league players. I get it.....it would be great to have Arraez given that every supposed veteran on this team is hurt or bad.....but they would likely not have any more wins with him here rather than Lopez. Which as my point about the record the last two years....they had him and bad pitching, and didn't win. It is a team game, and the FO bet on the second option above .... and might be wrong. But this idea that trading Arraez DOOMED the season, and the trade was awful, well, I think the trade was fair. YMMV of course.
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I think it's fair to dislike the trade ... But who pitches instead? And if he's worse, they need the bullpen more . They gambled polanco or Gordon or Julien plus Lopez was better than Arraez and ?. I think that was a good gamble. I understand why others disagree, but they never mention who the other pitcher would be, or seem to take that into account.
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Who pitches instead of Lopez? And does that make the team better or worse? If he's not good, they need the bullpen even more....
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Oh, we agree on that. I was adding the process topic....
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Agreed
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Of course, that's not what I said... It's a team game. It would be great to have him, but then no idea who pitches....
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My point remains the same. There are posts here that trading him was the doom of the season. It's not one guy. Also, who is pitching instead of Lopez? It would be great to have him and Lopez..... But that wasn't an option.
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Those last two episodes redeemed that last season in the eyes of many. I loved it all (well, maybe not LOVED).
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Please, no.
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I'm not sure what they should have done with Buxton, but IIRC, this board loved his signing as a "low risk" opportunity. Alas, sometimes even low risk things don't work out. I am hoping, illogically I think, that he gets healthy next year.....
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Fair, my main point was that process matters, and the FO dictates the process, and if process isn't working, that's on the FO (as is the skill of the players).
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I don't think for one minute the players don't care. Not one single player.
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This is a great point......it is also interesting, because it is the theory that the hitting coach should be fired. If the players are just doing what the coach is saying, then he should be fired because the process he's put in place isn't working. But, as you point out, the FO wants THAT PROCESS. So, unless they admit their mistake and adjust, they are the real issue (if it is process, and not skill).
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I think the problem is the players aren't good. I think I've been pretty clear on that. To add: I don't think any manager could win at a decent clip with three bad OFers, CC playing like this, and Buxton being hurt. Not one. So, as I've said, I don't know if I'd fire him or not, because I don't think we know if he can manage a good (complete, with good players hitting and pitching) or not, other than the two years he had that and they won.
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If Carmago came up and was even good, why not? They are adding almost no cost. (note, I have no idea if he's any good at the MLB level, certainly no team saw this coming this year).
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You posted Buxton should take less money, do you really think that's realistic? The money is not important to this team, the fact he's not healthy is. He should, IMO, be on the IL until he can play in the field.
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You can do the wrong thing, and it works. You can do the right thing, and it doesn't work. You judge people by what they do. For example, if you drive home drunk and make it, would you judge that as right? And keep doing it? That said, I have no idea if Rocco is good at his job, and admit he might be part of the problem (but IMO, the problem is the skill of the players).
