Right, at some point your question has so many caveats it's no longer generalizable and therefore no longer important. I mean, we are a layer or two from you asking if anyone named Levine has ever been in charge, traded their best player, for a good return, on a leap year, while using a Verizon phone. Your original question had validity because it was generalized enough that the answer may be generalizable. I think we've ventured far past that now. Especially since five minutes on Google and I alphabetically found a counter example at Atlanta seems to take the teeth out of your question.