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Everything posted by TheLeviathan
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Article: Twins Request Final Offers For Dozier
TheLeviathan replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
MLBTR took a few comments from LEN and extrapolated that he thinks it's a 1:1 deal. His actual article doesn't suggest it at all.- 146 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Rotation
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think I find these grades more tolerable when I look them only as assessments of what was done with no context for expectations or anything else.- 39 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Outfield
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I was leaning posthumous. You optimist, you.- 65 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Outfield
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Relatively speaking, let's hope it's much quicker that that!- 65 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Outfield
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Some of those locally optimistic expectations belonged to you......*cough* MVP *cough*- 65 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Outfield
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Was speaking about us as a warm and fuzzy collective, But you're right, I take issue with Nick's grades for the reasons above. I think they're generally too bullish, even for the offense.- 65 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Outfield
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Really? Hmmm, for me Buxton sort of makes/breaks this group. Also, I'm sort of merging this and the infield thread as I'm commenting since they are both about the offense and defense more or less. I also think we inadequately factored in defense in a lot of this. (Which was also quite bad)- 65 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Outfield
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Perhaps, but when people say we are also factoring in "expectations" I think that drops it a bit. C/D sounds better and we're closer to a weak B at this point.- 65 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Outfield
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
And yet our report cards have been solidly B/C........- 65 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Outfield
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Obviously in doing something like this there is a lot of subjectivity, but I really wonder how much the exercise is worth when we say "The offense was average, so the grades should be average too" Well, maybe. But some of the guys we are tossing Bs at in this were talked about as MVP candidates. Or guys that would be with the club all year long and weren't. Or guys that had ups and downs. I have a hard time giving anyone on this team better than a B. Dozier doesn't even go higher than that because he was a miserable suckfest of a black hole in our lineup for the first two months. It's....whatever. This is all an exercise in our down time and all that, but I think we're a few months past the trauma of the 2016 season and we've somehow forgotten just how bad it was.- 65 replies
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Article: Cardinals "Very Much In" on Brian Dozier
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Oh so you're going to trade three of them for a starter and then we'll have one starter? That's your plan?- 209 replies
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Article: Cardinals "Very Much In" on Brian Dozier
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think we all want to believe you, but your source was confident enough to put a 24 hour window on things and we're well past that. Perhaps your source isn't as close to the talks as they think. We've reached the point where skepticism is warranted.- 209 replies
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I think this thing is iced short of a turnover.
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Article: Cardinals "Very Much In" on Brian Dozier
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
103 losses and people are worried about changing the make-up of the team..... http://www.bluehogreport.com/wp-content/uploads/facepalm.jpg?x17359- 209 replies
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Article: 2016 Report Cards: Infield
TheLeviathan replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Grades are a bit bullish, especially relative to expectations set out at the start of 2016.- 45 replies
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Article: Cardinals "Very Much In" on Brian Dozier
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If it's not Reyes, I'd need Weaver and Perez to put it above a DeLeon package. Kelly is good defensively, but he's probably not a big leaguer with his bat.- 209 replies
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Absolutely Ben. The University owes their students the obligation of following their own code if they're going to enforce it against them. My point is that, in the process of their investigation, they think a crime was committed (sexual assault in this case) they should refer that to the police. Their findings should never indicate there was a criminal violation without the criminal system determining it. If they find there was a violation of their code - fine. But, as you say, they better have followed their own procedures on this.
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I am not stating the colleges don't have this right as of now. They do. Hell, they've basically been mandated to do it. I'm arguing that it shouldn't be that way. They shouldn't have the right, it's a non-legal court for all intents and purposes. And I'm opposed to all forms of non-legal quasi-courts for deciding if criminal action took place. Civil cases still happen with lawyers present, sometimes juries, judges, and a host of other provisions that come with our legal system. This was a handful of people hired, on behalf of the university, to look out for the university on a matter they have been mandated to address, with minimal due process (if any at all). Again, if your company suspects you of embezzling money or randomly murdering your co-workers, do they get the middle management team together to investigate? Because that's what is happening here.
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Yes, what they hold as their ethics policy is up to them. If consenting group sex is something the university wants to put as actionable in their policy - that is their right. I don't have a problem with them having a tribunal to determine sexual harassment, lewd behavior, or whatever other non-criminal matters they want to put in their policy. And if they deem a student violated one of those non-criminal policies - boot them. Have a process for it, but boot away. But to expel someone for "sexual assault" is to determine a crime happened. Your policy should be to refer all crime to the courts. If someone is accused of sexual assault at your work place they don't get the department heads together to determine your guilt. They call the police. Why should colleges be any different?
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You think firing someone is the same as labeling someone a sexual assaulter? You can't possibly believe that. The end effect is not even remotely "the same". I'm not taking issue with any company or organization's ability to enforce a non-criminal policy of conduct. I'm taking issue with a non-judicial entity making decisions about crimes. It's easy to look past how HORRIBLE an idea that is when we hate sexual predators. But that's when it's most important not to look past! The next thing we'll hear is that the courts aren't doing the right thing about child molesters so we'll let the PTA hand out banishments. Don't like that one? Come up with any analogy you want where the following are claimed to justify it: The courts aren't "good enough", the "won't someone please think of the children!" emotional appeal of "this is so important we have to do something!", and then we let a non-judicial tribunal decide what happened and how to handle the accused. Want to reduce sexual assaults? I'm with you, but not every solution should be on the table. This one most definitely shouldn't be. Form task forces between the campus police and law enforcement. Add extra lighting and security around campuses. Increase awareness and training for officers who field these calls. Form specific police units to handle these crimes on campuses. Hit them with the "yes means yes" framework over and over and over again on campus. Colleges should help victims pursue criminal charges, have counselors and others there to help them through the process so they put these things in the court. But setting up side tribunals of a bunch of stuffed shirt college employees to decide sexual assault? Good lord what a terrible idea.
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Then you gather more evidence if you want to pursue the crime. Depending on the state you could just fire them also, but you do so under at will laws, not because you declare them a thief.
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Policies about drugs still entail law enforcement when the drug has criminal punishments. And when they don't (like drug testing for employment and that sort of thing. Or drug testing for welfare benefits) I oppose those policies on the same grounds. Crimes should go through the criminal courts where all the foundational protections of our system are in place. No tribunal at work, college, or anywhere else should be determining if you murdered someone, embezzled, sexually assaulted, robbed, or kidnapped anyone. That's not the proper place for those matters. All of these students did more than enough to be kicked out just for their lewd behavior. That's sufficient. We don't have to decide if they were criminals, leave that to the authorities.
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I also think history will show this strategy to be ineffective for what it is intended for. Crimes belong in criminal court. Throw these idiots out for lewd behavior or even harassment, but assault? Nope, not the proper place for that determination. We should never sacrifice basic rights and judicial principles just to feel like we're doing something. The scumbag's right to defend himself in the wake of a criminal allegation are the same as mine. I don't want to chip away at them.
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You're right the way I phrased that made that unclear. Civil suits are still happening in a courtroom following a great deal more in terms of procedures, rules, and host of other judicial measures. They are presided over by a judge, often there is a jury, there are lawyers, etc.
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Well, as I linked you to before, there are law professors and judges already excoriating this. So to what degree they erode anything I guess we'll find out. I'm a guy who prizes principles and practical success. I think this violates both. I genuinely hope I'm wrong, the less sexual assaults the better, but I don't think we'll view it that way in the long run.

