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Correa Gives Twins a Best in Baseball
TheLeviathan replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
And as I linked in the other thread....No one was signing him without an opt out because he switched agents.- 21 replies
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Twins To Sign Carlos Correa
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Basically....a one year deal is all anyone was getting out of Correa. -
Twins To Sign Carlos Correa
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Some sweet, sweet vindication in here for some of us.
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Twins To Sign Carlos Correa
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Some fair criticism is a good thing, we don't have to be duckies and bunnies. But I agree with you that people weren't willing to see the advantage of moving on from Donaldson. Not only did we dump his entire contract (which...yes...had albatross written all over it), but we got a good fielding, younger 3B with some offensive upside. He's also a gritty, fun clubhouse guy. I was told repeatedly this offseason that there would be no market for Donaldson at full price, much less one that returned value. Well, we found it. Then we turned that savings into the best FA on the market, at a prime position of need. We are a MUCH better team today with Urshela-Correa than we were with Donaldson-IKF. -
Twins To Sign Carlos Correa
TheLeviathan replied to Seth Stohs's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
1) I thought no big free agents ever come here because of the weather? Guess if you pay 'em....they will huh? Can we all agree to bury that talking point forever? 2) He's no Andrelton Simmons but I think he'll be ok. 3) This team has a good defensive infield and has expendable players now in Arraez and possibly others who can be moved for pitching. -
Can Change-of-Scenery Help Sanchez?
TheLeviathan replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Yankees fans are pretty happy to be rid of Sanchez, that's definitely a problem. He was a league average catcher offensively last year but he has pedigree. Maybe the New York thing was weighing on him. Urshela, on the other hand, reads like the Eduardo Escobar of that team. A glue guy with a of grit and personality. Yankees fans are not happy to see him go and are not happy with Cashman for how he treated the exit. (Google "yankees fans urshela", the reads are interesting if nothing else!)- 52 replies
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100% agree that this swing could go completely wrong for the team. I guess I just see the upside. Which, IMO, exists even if they do nothing with the money. There is a perfectly plausible scenario where we get 130 OPS+ Urshela and Sanchez returns to form while Donaldson's calf muscles go bonkers again. We win this trade in that very possible scenario. Of course, Urshela could be the 2021 version, Sanchez is a mediocre DH, and Donaldson has two years left in the tank (also perfectly plausible) and we lose this trade. What ultimately makes the difference is if we use that 15M we just freed up, along with the already existing budget room we had, to go splash with a trade and Trevor Story. Then that upside possibility is gravy. So I'm in wait and see mode, just pushing back that this move is an automatic failure.
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You have demonstrated no capacity or willingness to have a nuanced discussion of statistics. These posts are disingenuous, you have no interest in actually analyzing any of this data. Only cherry-picking. I'm not interested in that kind of windmill chasing.
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Except Donaldson is 35. When the wall hits, it's going to hit pretty hard. Especially for a player like Donaldson who has so much value wrapped up in defense. I readily admit, a big reason I'm leaning positive on this trade is that I think we're wisely getting out early on a guy that is going to look like a 25M albatross. Where I hesitate is seeing how that money gets used.
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If everyone was what they were projected to be or were the previous year then we wouldn't have to play the games, Or our recent 100M investment into Buxton is complete nonsense. You gotta take swings at upside. I see the upside here, even if we might disagree greatly about the odds of hitting that upside. I have no doubt this could backfire spectacularly, but I do appreciate that they are shaking up a bad team.
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I don't think Urshela or Sanchez are low rated or garbage or anything like that. In two of the last three seasons Urshela had an OPS+ over 130. He was also an above average defender. Sanchez, while being a poor defender, has at times been an elite hitter. And they freed themselves of a problematic contract for a guy I'd bet is an albatross soon. That sort of contract flexibility has a lot of value in baseball right now. Now, what they do with that flexibility....we'll see.
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Well, moves are happening quickly here. If we make no other trades or signings than I too would scratch my head at this. It'll be curious to see how Donaldson and Garver perform the next two years, but people should at least consider the idea that we may have gotten out a year early on these guys rather than late. There is significant value in hitting on that timing, if you can hit on it.
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The Yankees were never in the SS market, they've been pretty clear they are saving that spot for a couple of their young prospects. They wanted a placeholder and IKF fits that. I don't think this team is done reshaping this roster. And when a team is as bad as the 2021 Twins were....why would anyone want to roll out with the same people?
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I think Urshela is an upside swing. 2019 and 2020 Urshela is worth Garver and Donaldson by himself. In fact, that'd be a steal. If there is more moving with him I'll reserve some judgement. But yeah...that's a huge win.
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If Urshela is the 2019 and 2020 version....I think I really like this trade. It's essentially Garver and Donaldson for Urshela and Sanchez. We save a buttload of money and I think we're a better team for it. I don't think this team is done wheeling and dealing.
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Draft Changes As Result of New CBA
TheLeviathan replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
And all the money in the world isn't going to fix their level of suck. The bottom feeders should spend more, but the point of drafts is to help teams rebuild. Using it as a punishment is both ineffective and counter-productive. -
Draft Changes As Result of New CBA
TheLeviathan replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I'm glad the draft is international now, but anti-tanking rules with lotteries doesn't work. You just shift from tanking for the #1 pick to tanking for the best odds of the #1 pick. The other rule only serves to deepen the divides between the haves and have nots. Until baseball levels the playing field, all of these changes just continue to give advantages to large markets. All I want is an MLB where the New York teams can be the Jets if they suck at managing a baseball operation. This current environment basically allows them to spend their way to a point of never reaching that low-point. -
Right, the site listed is estimating and I can't even see what sources they are using. So it's dubious to take that as gospel.
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https://blogs.fangraphs.com/the-braves-made-some-money-in-2021/#:~:text=The Braves enjoyed a banner,2020 season%2C to %24193 million. They made 104M in 2021. This is readily available information via google if you don't have a false agenda to push.
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I question this sourcing. Given what the Braves showed in profits (the only readily available information we concretely have)...this seems dubious at best. I think ownership profits are significantly more than this.
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Wow...my hometown and I know the family. Good for this kid!
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Pros and Cons of a Pitch Clock
TheLeviathan replied to Melissa Berman's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
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What Impact Does Missed Baseball Have?
TheLeviathan replied to Ted Schwerzler 's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
MLB already has self-inflicted cancer. Now they are choosing to chug Chernobyl river water. Van and others are right: radical changes have to be made. Instead....pettiness. -
The Twins Shouldn't Trade for an Ace
TheLeviathan replied to Cody Pirkl's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I guess I don't have any problem letting these near-ready pitchers show us what they have. I don't think you HAVE to trade for an ace, nor do I think you shouldn't trade for one because of protecting young, controllable assets. I tend to think a smart combination of both strategies is the real path forward and consistently successful franchises show that. (The Cardinals are a rough approximation of the Twins and use both strategies quite effectively) Absent other options to help the rotation I'm not interested in Montas right now. I'd prefer we had taken short term, high upside FA swings but I think it's completely possible this team could invest innings in young guys this year and watch them grow into something formidable in the near future. I'm not sure we'd get enough out of Montas in trade or in two years contributions to warrant a move now. Another ace? Sure, I'd always listen. Baseball's youth movement also means teams can rise up quickly if they can bring up the right young guys and turn a franchise around. No reason these young arms can't do that. And when they do? Absolutely consider trading prospects for more help.- 73 replies
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