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  1. Nick wouldn’t know what returns would come back. Like everyone else it would be pure conjecture. At the trade deadline the Twins asked for one of their starting outfielders and top prospects from Boston for Ryan. Boston counter offered. SI reported that currently Boston has 2 untouchable prospects and that Breslow would trade 2 of their other top prospects for Ryan. Ryan, or Lopez, is not going to bring back one of Boston’s outfielders and top prospects. That has been established.
  2. In general the boatload of prospects end up suspects. The Grienke trade did net the Royals 2 top 100 prospects. Cain wasn’t one of them. So indeed Ryan or Lopez should net 2 premium prospects. Neither one of them should be confused for Greinke so that kind of return shouldn’t be expected. The inadvertent quirk of your post was Odorizzi, the top 100 prospect in the Grienke trade, along with Will Meyers and Mike Montgomery who were also top 100 prospects. Now the definition of significant contribution comes to play. Meyers and Odo had good years, and as many bad years, is a couple of 3 war years interspersed with the bad ones a significant contribution versus a steady contribution from the very good players?
  3. Yup, you found a deadline trade to see what great talent can come back. Those trades usually require a team thinking they are one player away
  4. Trading a player with a long consecutive year history of injuries really can’t be a worst trade. Unless that is the player you are trading for. Hopefully the outcomes for Stewart, Mahle and Paddack will convince them to not trade for injury prone players except if said player has a minimal contract
  5. Bader’s 2021 season was better than his time as a Twin
  6. The collection of players did not win. It wasn’t the manager’s fault. Can’t fire all of the players that you couldn’t trade so they fire the manager. Been that way in baseball for a very long time.
  7. Since 1977 here are the guys with no coaching or managing experience that became managers. Scott Servis Brad Asmus Craig Council Walt Weiss Robin Ventura Aj Henich Buck Martinez Larry Dierker Mike Matheny David Ross
  8. where did I say that spending did not have an influence or matter. In small windows you can eliminate the outliers, which you effectively did. If I want to return the favor of twisting words, I could say that your post proves that it is hopeless for the Twins to ever compete because they do not have the resources to compete.
  9. Suzuki was a Ryan player. This outfit has a bias against almost all the Ryan players
  10. There is the old saying you get what you pay for The streaming is bringing in so much money that baseball is looking at ending it. Fan attendance is down. The 23 Twins were in first place for nearly the whole season. Maybe 100,000 mor fans than the year before. Winning and great individual performance did not draw crowds. That is how a team has to come up with a “right size” budget plan. They did not come out for a winning team.
  11. Consider that a 4 year window is only but a glimpse at what a team does. Adjust your window by a couple of years and you have a little different results
  12. I don’t think the 160 million that the Twins have or will give Correa is the going rate for WAR. So paying Correa that much for that little production is a debacle.
  13. Keaschall did not choke on his opportunity. Too bad Zebby and Festa can’t be added to this list
  14. The comments I have made on ,player development have never said that the manager is not responsible. It is pointing out that after years of coaching and the player good at something perhaps it is not the coaching. Sorry people here can’t seem to grasp that concept. When somebody’s is stating an opinion and it is countered with there is no objective data, they should be providing objective data for their opinion. When you demand something of someone else and don’t provide it yourself, you should be called out for that. Sorry that is also a concept that people here will not understand
  15. None that I saw, I did see you posting a lot of opinions
  16. Yet you offer no objective analysis that he was bad at the job, just opinion
  17. Shumaher worked for the Rangers. As manager in waiting. He was also interviewed for managerial jobs and not hired. Before taking the Texas job. To be another Schumaker is why the Twins job should be more appealing for the up and coming manager,
  18. McPhail became McFail after leaving the Twins. Rantz;s farm system quit producing talent long before he left, Kelly has been advisor to the Twins since retiring from managing
  19. Texas has an aging core. Sustaining even their .500 status is not certain. They are not an ideal long term job
  20. Easier to write negative articles than it is to explain why somebody may be good. Easier to write conjecture than dig for the facts. Looking for the nuance takes thinking and time. There isn’t the money in fan sites to take that sort of time
  21. If I person wants to manage, has faith in their abilities to get the most out of position players it is not a bad job. The ceilings on man of the players is in the 3-4 WAR range. Lewis, Walner and even Julian have flashed that potential. Lee was a top 20 prospect.then there is Keaschall and the other ranked prospects. It is not an easy job, but moderate success will get that person jobs. It is just a matter of believing the rankings and your abilities. There are only 30 jobs. Craig Council in Milwaukee is an example of that.
  22. Talking to people who think they know all is a very difficult thing to do. Very few people master it
  23. Joe Pohlad and Jim Pohlad are two different people. Sometimes it seems like people can’t figure that out. Any friction they have on how the team is run they are going to keep it fairly quiet. That he says sometimes you have to try something different reflects that. In the media where people take that comment and turn it is why they play it pretty close to the vest. The problem Joe has is that he doesn’t have that much control. Jim still controls the money. Falvey is Jim’s boy. The managerial hire will show if Joe can change the direction. The team is always going to be dependent on development of players. If there are new ideas put in place on players drafted as position players it will take time, hence the pain. I would think that anyone who has followed baseball would understand that. Nick has proved me wrong.
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