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I do not think Adam’s and Cabrera will be on the major league club next year
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By your own words they came out for the newness in the 60s, and history repeated itself with Target Field . The attendance stayed high for the first 11 years if newness worked that well the attendance at Target Field would have stayed high up to the pandemic. Calvin Griffith and the Pohlads ran the same type of team model. 65 years of the same thing. Now it breaks the fan base? That is absurd.
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The players traded for Dyson amounted to replacement level players. That is hardly a shellacking, more like nothing for nothing. Lamont had a couple good years, but he was practically a bat only player.
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A league average bat is bottom third for a league starting OF/DH. You are correct that it would only be a potential and not an actual BP arm
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Given the state of pitching Hatch Tonkin and Misiewicz will all get offered a contract that might be a slight raise or not. It is better than a minor league contract with an invite. Ober does not have a replacement. The only way he is non tendered is if he asks for a contract that doesn’t include last year’s performance. Larnach would be wise to sign a contract that includes a small raise. The arb value on a replacement level player should not be 5 million. They may view Rodriquez as a replacement but they did not call him up once the season in St Paul ended. If there were more sure replacements he would be a non tender candidate. Injuries wrecked a team full of question marks, does 2 million break the bank?
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In the 60s when the Twins had a competitive teams the fans came out. They were one of the top drawing teams in the league. In 2023 with a competitive team the fans did not come out. No business is going to operate at a loss for long. They built it, the fans didn’t come. Paddack at 23 had a great future. Injuries wrecked that. The Twins still kept him because they really did not have other options that looked better. He did not cost them the season, but was a factor. Injuries to the key players on the team did that. Sure the Twins did not have as many injuries, but a number 6 and 7 starter who could not beat out Paddack were not going to be a replacement for a number 1 and 3 starter. Lopez was having a Cy Young votes season, Ober was touted as a potential Cy Young candidate. Regression by the players not named Byron did not help the cause, either. Losing to Colorado was just the end of the hope
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All the more reason to take a flyer.
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He is working his way back from Tommy John. It hasn’t gone well, but still, he was a decent arm. Should the Twins take a flyer?
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Joe Ryan Is Failing to Answer His Biggest Question
old nurse replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Here is to hoping that Boston makes it to at least the ALCS before losing out of the playoffs. A desparate team is more likely to pay more than others. -
Sigh. Who do you think was the one who had to sign off on the major trades.
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If the plan worked, attendance would be back toand it would not be 25% of payroll. They took a risk and lost. The cheap Pohlads spent money and it did not work. All it did was give the negative people one more thing to complain about.
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Interesting that the blogger can claim they will sign Hoskins but doesn’t suggest anything for the bullpen. The likelihood of Hoskins signing here is small.
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Maddux Houghton has out OPSed them all on the AAA level. People will be calling for him soon if all they read is the OPS column. 😆
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Martin is his acquisition. Except for Buxton, they all were his acquisitions
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The Mets and Giants had 12 year contracts. The medical were reporting concerns for the repaired ankle not holding up that long. Common sense as a shortstop says he was not going to last that long. There were no ankle issues in his Twins stay. There was no unreasonable length to his contract. He had been averaging 5 bwar a season for his career up to that point. His Twins contract was not unreasonable for that kind of player, It wasn’t working this season. That is not hindsight. There is understanding history.
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They needed to bring up someone after they released Buehler. Tolle was the first choice then they have gone to Early. They probably figured Tolle could do no worse than Buehler. When they were wrong, they brought up Early.
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Why would Boston trade a starting pitcher like Tolle unless they don’t think he will make it as a starter. That is the only reason a team should be willing to trade a cost controlled arm unless the are getting a prearb pitcher back. For 2 years of Ryan they aren’t giving up a potential front line starter.
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You make the deal when you think everything is going to work out It did not work out. Nobody could see the plantar fasciitis coming. This year was either disinterest or the aging curve started to hit. If Lewis elevated to star level, and most of the prospects worked out to solid major leaguers it was a great plan. Even the 160 million payroll year was a gamble it would all work out. When it didn’t, Jim Pohlad cut the money. Correa had to go sooner or later. It was actually luck that Houston needed him,
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Diamondbacks had it worse for television contract cancelation cost. They have a decent team in the playoff chase, recent WS. The fans in the stands are even stronger now, so they could afford the Burnes contract. They are even surviving his injury. When they signed Correa the second time they had the potential of Wallner, Kirriloff, Larnach, Miranda, and Lewis, with Steer hitting well in AAA. They took a risk that the next 4-5 years with a healthy Buxton and the bat of Arraez with all these great prospects, they had a shot. We saw how it worked out.
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You brought up the Mets as a counter to my comment. In asking you the question of uniqueness because the Mets, nor no other team, had a bearing in my comment, so why did you bother to bring it up? AAAA players are usually players that have excelled throughout the minors but bomb once they hit the majors. Like the Mendoza line of .215, meanings get changed to fit whatever the person wants it to
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If everyone else stayed healthy and performed to their potential it is possible they thought they were a Carlos Correa at full potential away. It is quite possible with an expiring TV deal they thought the next one would be larger. They did a poor job of monitoring the business of tv because cable was losing customers for a while before the Correa contract.
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The term fan favorite gets bandied about here quite a bit. Currently it means nothing. Fans here do not come out and watch players play great. Attendance would have spiked when Grey pitched in 23. It did not.
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Fans complain they aren’t winning. Fan complains when they try to win. The injury was not from pitching but on fielding. Bad luck, not overuse
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The message would be we are going to be cheap. That is not the message you want to send. Cheap baseball doesn’t draw fans. The Twins are already one of the cheapest tickets in baseball. The Saints have empty seats. When Saints baseball was winning independent leagues they drew capacity and it was an event. When Target Field was new, it was an event. The Twins shouldn’t have laid off the scouts, the sales and game day people have failed so miserably they should have been let go
