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In 2 years in Seattle Polanco has played at 2b 150 times. Only 119 were complete games there. There was a possibility of 324 games. Playing that way for the Twins they still would have needed a 2b
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Equating the Polanco trade with the Twins and Correa is a real stretch. Not the most preposterous thing posted, but close
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The tone here over the years has shifted. Hate on everything is in. You are just going to have to change your ways, Sorry your adopted town is now a hellhole of a burning inferno.
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So what does that make Seattle who declined Polanco’s option, then resigned him when no other team outbid their paltry offer?
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So is it a trade win when Seattle declined the option on his contract. No other team outbid Seattles ow offer of 7 million so Seattle resigned him.
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You are either cutting them or keeping them.. you are unlikely to do both. Laweryson did well enough last year to get picked up by a team in need of bullpen help. Topa if a team is not squeezing every last dime would get picked up to see if he can do what he did in Seattle.
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If you cut Topa and Laweryson they will not be in your bullpen
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Looking at a one year window and also calling mediocrity a cornerstone to winning is not an accurate way to assess for ongoing success. Sorry the rise and falling of the Twins has not shown you that There are only 2 ways to have new talent into the organization to build it. One is to sign a free agent who is either a useful player or a discarded one. One costs a lot of money, one doesn’t. Waiver claims, DFAs Rule V would fit in the discard pile. Then there is amateur talent acquisition. Without having any acumen for that, the team would have nothing to shuffle for trades. Your method of evaluating talent acquisition ignores the cost of acquisition.
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Your research does nothing to identify the process. Miami is built the same way as Milwaukee. There is a difference in results
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The Twins Don’t Just Need Strategy. They Need Soul
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Probably the only people who think it was a bad trade were those who make anything this FO does into a negative action.
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Arbitrary Thoughts: RHP Cole Sands
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Arbitrary Thoughts: RHP Cole Sands
old nurse replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Sands is like the people i worked with who were great in chaos but dis not want to handle life and death. Set up reliever is chaos, closer is life or death. He will be fine as long as he is set up guy -
Level of play versus expectation is the criteria I used with the damage done. Correa. To those of high pay, high level of play is expected. Lewis. High draft pick, great initial level of play. Will it ever be seen again. Lee. Some development Alcala. Expected to be a prime set up guy Larnach. Really hasn’t developed. Should be higher. If he was better they would have not taken either Outman or Roden. (Who proved Denny Green was right, they are who we thought they were) Julian. Was depended on for 2b, necessitated an outside aqisition Castrp. Played like he was in Detroit Festa and Mathew’s. Did not develop after maiden voyages last year Who shouldn’t be on the list? Keirsey was a 5th outfielder 13th position player. He played at that level The replacements after the trade deadline in the bullpen. There was a reason they were available and they showed it. Adams. Given that he was playing only as emergency or they didn’t have a warm body after trades there shouldn’t have been any expectations other than that of replacement level play.
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It tells you nothing as it is all generalities. One could find similar numbers for how teams acquire player. The key is successful players and your analysis does nothing to further the knowledge off how to do that.
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You are determining what the team has for a single year, not ongoing success. You are giving equal credit to the bit players as the solid player for success.
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You don’t understand. You can’t make the basis on just one year’s performance and call it good.
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The people who created the metric called in indefinite due to the defensive metric component. There is no difference between a 1.4 WAR position player and a 1.5. Calling a prospect a success with a single season of 1.5 war and ignoring everything else is incorrect. You are getting a prospect to build a team, not to plug a hole for a year. A signing of a player for a one year contract you would likely have to determine the success by ROI. A 1.5 WAR for a Ty France is getting what you paid for. Had Conforto even provided 1.5 WAR for the Dodgers, that would have been a poor contracts Saying a player that is purchased as a DFA is the same as a player with multiple years in the majors but not 1.5 WAR, and a minor league prospect the same thing is not an accurate description.
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Your comment was negative about the Word Series was all that matters to fans. That is fairly close to tru for the Twins fan. Attendance proves that. Attendance goes down payroll goes down. 1.5 war at some point in the career means you are an established player. Julian, Outman, Lewis, Miranda, Wallner, SWR and Bradley then are established impact players by your convoluted system. There are quite a few to thousands of posts that differ from that opinion
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Perhaps you ought to look at attendance post WS wins for the Twins, stadium opening years, division championship years and all other years in the last 40 years and then try to say what is important to the fans. To prove that 1.5 WAR is the accurate minimal WAR for a player perhaps do a lovely table of WPA to WAR to show that 1.5 is the magic number. Perhaps if you look at the number of players who do not produce 1.5 WAR in a season, or produce more than 1.5 WAR only once in their career you would understand the word suspects
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So they write about something not actually happening
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As they have fired almost all of the pro scouts I wouldn’t anticipate them making much for big trades. I know at the time there was speculation that it was budgetary reasons, but I suspect the returns weren’t as advertised upon watching the returns from the deadline trades
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Nick wouldn’t know what returns would come back. Like everyone else it would be pure conjecture. At the trade deadline the Twins asked for one of their starting outfielders and top prospects from Boston for Ryan. Boston counter offered. SI reported that currently Boston has 2 untouchable prospects and that Breslow would trade 2 of their other top prospects for Ryan. Ryan, or Lopez, is not going to bring back one of Boston’s outfielders and top prospects. That has been established.
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In general the boatload of prospects end up suspects. The Grienke trade did net the Royals 2 top 100 prospects. Cain wasn’t one of them. So indeed Ryan or Lopez should net 2 premium prospects. Neither one of them should be confused for Greinke so that kind of return shouldn’t be expected. The inadvertent quirk of your post was Odorizzi, the top 100 prospect in the Grienke trade, along with Will Meyers and Mike Montgomery who were also top 100 prospects. Now the definition of significant contribution comes to play. Meyers and Odo had good years, and as many bad years, is a couple of 3 war years interspersed with the bad ones a significant contribution versus a steady contribution from the very good players?
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Yup, you found a deadline trade to see what great talent can come back. Those trades usually require a team thinking they are one player away
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