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  1. Sands is like the people i worked with who were great in chaos but dis not want to handle life and death. Set up reliever is chaos, closer is life or death. He will be fine as long as he is set up guy
  2. Level of play versus expectation is the criteria I used with the damage done. Correa. To those of high pay, high level of play is expected. Lewis. High draft pick, great initial level of play. Will it ever be seen again. Lee. Some development Alcala. Expected to be a prime set up guy Larnach. Really hasn’t developed. Should be higher. If he was better they would have not taken either Outman or Roden. (Who proved Denny Green was right, they are who we thought they were) Julian. Was depended on for 2b, necessitated an outside aqisition Castrp. Played like he was in Detroit Festa and Mathew’s. Did not develop after maiden voyages last year Who shouldn’t be on the list? Keirsey was a 5th outfielder 13th position player. He played at that level The replacements after the trade deadline in the bullpen. There was a reason they were available and they showed it. Adams. Given that he was playing only as emergency or they didn’t have a warm body after trades there shouldn’t have been any expectations other than that of replacement level play.
  3. It tells you nothing as it is all generalities. One could find similar numbers for how teams acquire player. The key is successful players and your analysis does nothing to further the knowledge off how to do that.
  4. You are determining what the team has for a single year, not ongoing success. You are giving equal credit to the bit players as the solid player for success.
  5. You don’t understand. You can’t make the basis on just one year’s performance and call it good.
  6. The people who created the metric called in indefinite due to the defensive metric component. There is no difference between a 1.4 WAR position player and a 1.5. Calling a prospect a success with a single season of 1.5 war and ignoring everything else is incorrect. You are getting a prospect to build a team, not to plug a hole for a year. A signing of a player for a one year contract you would likely have to determine the success by ROI. A 1.5 WAR for a Ty France is getting what you paid for. Had Conforto even provided 1.5 WAR for the Dodgers, that would have been a poor contracts Saying a player that is purchased as a DFA is the same as a player with multiple years in the majors but not 1.5 WAR, and a minor league prospect the same thing is not an accurate description.
  7. Your comment was negative about the Word Series was all that matters to fans. That is fairly close to tru for the Twins fan. Attendance proves that. Attendance goes down payroll goes down. 1.5 war at some point in the career means you are an established player. Julian, Outman, Lewis, Miranda, Wallner, SWR and Bradley then are established impact players by your convoluted system. There are quite a few to thousands of posts that differ from that opinion
  8. Perhaps you ought to look at attendance post WS wins for the Twins, stadium opening years, division championship years and all other years in the last 40 years and then try to say what is important to the fans. To prove that 1.5 WAR is the accurate minimal WAR for a player perhaps do a lovely table of WPA to WAR to show that 1.5 is the magic number. Perhaps if you look at the number of players who do not produce 1.5 WAR in a season, or produce more than 1.5 WAR only once in their career you would understand the word suspects
  9. As they have fired almost all of the pro scouts I wouldn’t anticipate them making much for big trades. I know at the time there was speculation that it was budgetary reasons, but I suspect the returns weren’t as advertised upon watching the returns from the deadline trades
  10. Nick wouldn’t know what returns would come back. Like everyone else it would be pure conjecture. At the trade deadline the Twins asked for one of their starting outfielders and top prospects from Boston for Ryan. Boston counter offered. SI reported that currently Boston has 2 untouchable prospects and that Breslow would trade 2 of their other top prospects for Ryan. Ryan, or Lopez, is not going to bring back one of Boston’s outfielders and top prospects. That has been established.
  11. In general the boatload of prospects end up suspects. The Grienke trade did net the Royals 2 top 100 prospects. Cain wasn’t one of them. So indeed Ryan or Lopez should net 2 premium prospects. Neither one of them should be confused for Greinke so that kind of return shouldn’t be expected. The inadvertent quirk of your post was Odorizzi, the top 100 prospect in the Grienke trade, along with Will Meyers and Mike Montgomery who were also top 100 prospects. Now the definition of significant contribution comes to play. Meyers and Odo had good years, and as many bad years, is a couple of 3 war years interspersed with the bad ones a significant contribution versus a steady contribution from the very good players?
  12. Yup, you found a deadline trade to see what great talent can come back. Those trades usually require a team thinking they are one player away
  13. Trading a player with a long consecutive year history of injuries really can’t be a worst trade. Unless that is the player you are trading for. Hopefully the outcomes for Stewart, Mahle and Paddack will convince them to not trade for injury prone players except if said player has a minimal contract
  14. Bader’s 2021 season was better than his time as a Twin
  15. The collection of players did not win. It wasn’t the manager’s fault. Can’t fire all of the players that you couldn’t trade so they fire the manager. Been that way in baseball for a very long time.
  16. Since 1977 here are the guys with no coaching or managing experience that became managers. Scott Servis Brad Asmus Craig Council Walt Weiss Robin Ventura Aj Henich Buck Martinez Larry Dierker Mike Matheny David Ross
  17. where did I say that spending did not have an influence or matter. In small windows you can eliminate the outliers, which you effectively did. If I want to return the favor of twisting words, I could say that your post proves that it is hopeless for the Twins to ever compete because they do not have the resources to compete.
  18. Suzuki was a Ryan player. This outfit has a bias against almost all the Ryan players
  19. There is the old saying you get what you pay for The streaming is bringing in so much money that baseball is looking at ending it. Fan attendance is down. The 23 Twins were in first place for nearly the whole season. Maybe 100,000 mor fans than the year before. Winning and great individual performance did not draw crowds. That is how a team has to come up with a “right size” budget plan. They did not come out for a winning team.
  20. Consider that a 4 year window is only but a glimpse at what a team does. Adjust your window by a couple of years and you have a little different results
  21. I don’t think the 160 million that the Twins have or will give Correa is the going rate for WAR. So paying Correa that much for that little production is a debacle.
  22. Keaschall did not choke on his opportunity. Too bad Zebby and Festa can’t be added to this list
  23. The comments I have made on ,player development have never said that the manager is not responsible. It is pointing out that after years of coaching and the player good at something perhaps it is not the coaching. Sorry people here can’t seem to grasp that concept. When somebody’s is stating an opinion and it is countered with there is no objective data, they should be providing objective data for their opinion. When you demand something of someone else and don’t provide it yourself, you should be called out for that. Sorry that is also a concept that people here will not understand
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