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    Twins July Trade Candidates


    Seth Stohs

    For the past week, Nick and I have taken turns reviewing the players that the Twins could look to acquiring in trades from the various divisions. When that series of articles began, the team was just a ½ game out of first place. As the series came to a conclusion yesterday with a look at the American League East division, the Twins found themselves nearly six games out and four games out of a wild card spot.

    At this point, the strategy has likely changed. Instead of being buys, the Twins are taking calls from teams to find out which players the Twins might be willing to “sell” by Monday afternoon’s trade deadline.

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    As I’ve done in past years when the trade deadline approached and the Twins were (more clearly) sellers, I reviewed players in the Twins organization who could be dealt for something and gave a percent-likelihood that the player gets traded.

    WHO IS SAFE (probably)?

    Before digging into which players have at least some chance of being traded, it’s probably a good idea to consider which players will not be traded, for whatever reason. While the percent-likelihood that they are dealt may not be 0.00%, it is like 0.001% or similar.

    • Joe Mauer will not be traded. He has a no-trade clause in his contract, and he became a 10-5 guy a long time ago.
    • Miguel Sano, Byron Buxton, Max Kepler - Young, high-ceiling hitters who are yet to reach their primes are immensely valuable. They each will make the league’s minimum at least one more year.
    • Jose Berrios, Adalberto Mejia - See the previous list and substitute the word “pitchers” for “hitters.”
    • Glen Perkins, Phil Hughes, Ryan O’Rourke, Trevor May - These are 60-day DL guys. While there would be teams interested in Trevor May if he was made available, it would be very unlikely the Twins would trade him when they likely have high hopes for him in 2018, and beyond.
    • Bartolo Colon, Hector Santiago - These guys are closer to being DFAd than to being traded.

    TRADE CANDIDATES

    First and foremost, this list is intended for entertainment purposes only. Twins Daily does not recommend or encourage making wagers on trade deadline activities. These percentages are simply educated guesses designed to create discussion.

    Brandon Kintzler - RHP (75%) - Brought in on a minor league contract following an injury-plagued 2015 season, Kintzler began in Rochester, was called up a month later, was the team’s closer a month or so later, and in 2017, he became an All-Star. He has been remarkably reliable. However, he is at the end of his contract and will be a free agent following the season. His ability to close, or work in tough situations in the seventh or eighth inning could make him valuable to any playoff-contending team. Another All-Star who is an impending free agent at season’s end, Pat Neshek, went to the Rockies for three minor leaguers (none were Top 15 prospect types). Since Kintzler is a little younger, the Twins might be able to get slightly more return for Kintzler.

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    Jaime Garcia - LHP (55%) - When the Twins acquired him on Monday, they were buying, just 2.5 games out of first place, and even closer in the wild card. Now the team may be a seller, and he has yet to make his first start for the organization. The Twins gave up 19-year-old Huascar Ynoa for Garcia with a willingness to eat much of Garcia’s remaining contract. The Twins could look to trade Garcia, continue paying him at least some of his remaining money ($4.5 million or so), and get a higher-ranking prospect in return.

    Ervin Santana - RHP (40%) - Santana may be a bit older, but he’s on a friendly contract for 2018 with an option for 2019. In other words, he’s far from a rental. A team could keep him for nearly 2 ½ years if things go well. Santana was great in April and May. He hasn’t been particularly strong in June and July, but he’s a veteran that most teams would be happy to see starting for them in the playoffs. The Rangers are in about the same situation and they’ve made Yu Darvish available, so the Twins would be wise to at least make Santana available and see what offers role in. He could be a backup plan to Darvish or Sonny Gray for the Yankees and Dodgers, while he makes a ton of sense for the Astros.

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    Eduardo Escobar - UT (37.5%) - This name might surprise many reading, but it does make a lot of sense. Escobar is beloved in the clubhouse, but if the Twins were to offer him arbitration this coming offseason, he is likely to make $4 million or more. That’s a lot for a utility guy. Now, if he plays as much and as well as he has in 2017 next year, he’d be more than worth it. But with Dozier, Polanco and maybe Nick Gordon and/or Engelb Vielma in the picture in the middle infield, and Ehire Adrianza fully capable of being a solid utility infielder for $3 million less, dealing Escobar while he’s playing so well may make a lot of sense. They could get a similar haul to what the Giants got for Eduardo Nunez this week.

    Chris Gimenez - C (35%) - Gimenez clearly has a ton of respect in the game, particularly for his charisma and leadership skills. On field, he hasn’t been particularly good, but teams love adding guys like this down the stretch. The Twins wouldn’t get much, maybe even just some cash and a low level prospect, but I can see teams asking for him. It would allow Mitch Garver to be up for the final two months of the season as well.

    Matt Belisle - RHP (30%) - Belisle’s overall numbers do not look good because of a handful of really bad outings, but he has been really good the last two months. He’s given up just one earned run in his last 16 outings (18.2 innings). The return won’t be real high, but he can be a solid 5th or 6th bullpen option for a good team.

    Robbie Grossman - DH (20%) - Grossman was yet another strong minor league deal for Terry Ryan last year. Since joining the Twins, he has been a very productive hitter, primarily for his on-base skills, but he’s provided occasional pop too. He isn’t ideal to have in the outfield defensively, but there could be a team looking for a bench bat who could provide some versatility. He will be arbitration-eligible this offseason, and if he stays with the Twins, it would be an obvious choice to offer it to.

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    Kyle Gibson - RHP (17.5%) - The right-hander was the Twins pitcher of the year in 2015, but the last two years have been a struggle for him. He had one of his best starts of the year on Saturday, and by Tuesday, he was sent to Rochester where he pitched well on Thursday night. In his second run at arbitration this offseason, Gibson could make a raise, potentially getting $4.5-5 million. The Twins likely would not pick that up, but Gibson’s got enough pedigree that there could be a team out there that thinks they know how to turn things around for the right-hander. And they may be right. For some reason, he seems like a perfect fit with the Cardinals.

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    (One of) ByungHo Park/Kennys Vargas - DH (15%) - While teams likely won’t come to the Twins asking about these AAA (maybe AAAA) DH/1B, the Twins could go to teams looking for a bench bat, backup 1B/DH type in an attempt to drop one of them. Maybe they can find a taker. I thought Tampa made a lot of sense for Park since Logan Morrison and now Lucas Duda both bat left-handed.

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    Eddie Rosario - OF (12.5%) - Rosario has arguably been the Twins best hitter the last six weeks, so this would be a case of trying to sell high on Rosario. The decision to make him available would likely be based on the front office’s willingness to believe that Rosario’s improved plate discipline and walk rate over the last couple of months is sustainable.

    Brian Dozier - 2B (10%) - There will be teams that will inquire about the availability of Dozier. Clearly the Twins were wise to not deal him straight-up for Jose Deleon. However, to this point Dozier has returned to a level at or slightly above his 2014 and 2015 numbers, as opposed to his historic performance in 2016. That’s still a valuable player, but the Twins will (and should) ask for more than teams are likely willing to offer. There are a lot of quality second basemen in baseball, and one of them, Ian Kinsler, is very likely to be traded which means there may not be a lot of teams in need of a second baseman. The Twins will happily keep him unless overwhelmed.

    Ryan Pressly - RHP (5%) - Teams could or should watch Pressly and see the 96-98 mph fastball, and see that sharp breaking ball, and realize that he’s got some great stuff. Pitching coaches and coordinators likely believe that they can provide said pitcher with that little piece that he’s missing to turn things around. Pressly’s got stuff to be a great late-inning reliever, and he’ll probably get there some day. The Twins would be wise to hang on to him, especially since he can be optioned still this year. No need to sell low.

    Taylor Rogers - LHP (2.5%) - Although I think Rogers could be part of a strong bullpen for the Twins for years ahead, I am including his name here. When I look at what the Marlins got for reliever David Phelps (who is similar, though right-handed, and older), I’d be incredibly curious what other teams might offer for a left-hander like Rogers who has been great for the Twins until the last few games. Unlikely to be dealt, but if a team is willing to give up three or four minor leaguers for him, I’d be curious.

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    It’s fun to guess what the team will do, but we still don’t know to what level the front office views this team. Sellers? Sellers only if overwhelmed? Buyers for long-term, high-talent assets? A combination of all of the above.

    There may be some surprises in the list above, and by Monday, there could be other surprises, maybe some minor leaguers. It will be as interesting a trade deadline as we have seen in recent years. There could be five moves, or they could do nothing, and a case could be made for both strategies. At the end of the day, each trade (made or not made) would have to be judged on its own merit.

    So, what do you think? Do you agree or disagree with the list above or any of the percentages? As a reminder, it’s important to remember that several of these player trades may make more sense in August rather than the July deadline.

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    Seth hit this earlier, but why couldn't Garver be a platoon with Mauer while playing catcher or OF on the days Mauer's at 1B?

    If you're going to platoon, Vargas is a better option.

     

    Garvet is setup to be a fine backup catcher and perhaps able to fill in other spots on occasion, but probably necessary to slow the roll a little bit.

     

    If you're going to platoon, Vargas is a better option.

    Garvet is setup to be a fine backup catcher and perhaps able to fill in other spots on occasion, but probably necessary to slow the roll a little bit.

     

    Ya, he's only 26 with a 900 OPS in AAA. Gotta slow it down.

    Sadly, I think it's time for the Twins to become sellers. While this team has done very well so far (compared to what was expected), we are not yet a contender for future years. However, I hope they do not trade Dozier or Santana (though he won't be as good as the first half) unless they can get quality that they can control. I do not like trading for prospects who, in reality, are suspects. I do not think this really makes a team better. However, I understand the need to trade those who will become free agents after this year to get some future quality. Kinzler seems most likely to go. I would not give up completely on Santiago. He started well but then faltered then got hurt. I also think it's way too early to give up on Gibson who is younger. We need another starter and 2 more decent hitters plus 2 middle relief guys if Pressley cannot get better.

    Ya, he's only 26 with a 900 OPS in AAA. Gotta slow it down.

    He should be up sooner rather than later, but planning on him being a platoon 1b and getting other games in the of, and then otherwise catch, is way too much.

     

    A 26 year old with a 900 ops strikes me right now as a high end backup catcher, not someone filling in at corner spots.

    Garver is the same age as Vargas and is hitting better than Vargas at the same level. Plus, Garver is just crushing lefties (1000 OPS) and is a better fielder.

    Garver does have an advantage this year, but Vargas outhit him the previous two years. And Vargas is at best a marginal big leaguer.

     

    I think Garver should be up sooner rather than later and he should carve out a nice mlb career, but people are getting way ahead of themselves here. Very Zack Granite like in their expectations.

     

    He should be up sooner rather than later, but planning on him being a platoon 1b and getting other games in the of, and then otherwise catch, is way too much.

    A 26 year old with a 900 ops strikes me right now as a high end backup catcher, not someone filling in at corner spots.

     

    Is anyone saying anything other than high end back up, PH, platoon partner? I guess, maybe, but that player has legit value, moreso than a 14th pitcher.

    Is anyone saying anything other than high end back up, PH, platoon partner? I guess, maybe, but that player has legit value, moreso than a 14th pitcher.

    My initial response was to someone who suggested a larger role. Not sure why you feel the need to jump in and twist the conversation.

     

    And I agree he should be up over a 13th (not 14th) pitcher.

     

    My initial response was to someone who suggested a larger role. Not sure why you feel the need to jump in and twist the conversation.

    And I agree he should be up over a 13th (not 14th) pitcher.

     

    I knew I counted that wrong!

     

    I missed that part, I guess, that someone was saying he was ready to be a starter right now.

    Garver should be up and playing 1B, LF, C, DH, PH right now, I'm with you on that Seth.

     

    I think there will be 1-2 trades, mostly likely Gimenez (in August?), Belisle (sneaky good since the start of the year), Garcia.

     

    I agree with everything but the LF part. In the one game I saw, he seems no where near ready to play outfield in the major leagues. Grossman is a below average outfielder but Garver wouldn't be close to his level. How could be be? He has 114 innings in the minors. Why should the Twins expect someone to come up and learn that position in the majors? It is even a bigger jump moving from catcher than a middle infield position. Call him up now and scrap LF or keep him down to give him a lot more time in LF in AAA/winter/spring.

     

    I agree with everything but the LF part. In the one game I saw, he seems no where near ready to play outfield in the major leagues. Grossman is a below average outfielder but Garver wouldn't be close to his level. How could be be? He has 114 innings in the minors. Why should the Twins expect someone to come up and learn that position in the majors? It is even a bigger jump moving from catcher than a middle infield position. Call him up now and scrap LF or keep him down to give him a lot more time in LF in AAA/winter/spring.

     

    fair, I thought he had more innings than that in LF. 

     

    and that doesn't take into account defense....

    He throws out a higher % of  base runners trying to steal, but some of those passed balls have looked pretty tough.

    Still, I suspect the 'framing' skills that are attributes to Gimenez likely make him attractive defensively.

    I have been too confused by the current FO to predict what they will do.  For me the people you trade are the ones you have potential replacement for in the system.  So the middle infield and one catcher and one outfielder fit that model as does one or two starting pitchers.  Sano, Romero, Gonsalves, Mejia and either Santana or Garcia makes a rotation for 2018.  And in the bullpen anyone can go, we do not have overwhelming quality out there. 

     

    If you're going to platoon, Vargas is a better option.

    Garvet is setup to be a fine backup catcher and perhaps able to fill in other spots on occasion, but probably necessary to slow the roll a little bit.

     

    Agreed. I notice the Garver chatter has become almost Buxton-like in its frenzy lately. He seems decent, but some of these posts make it sound like we've got a future All-Star in the wings. Garver hasn't even taken a MLB at bat yet. The probability that he's a long term, impact player is very low IMO. I think "Gaver Fever" exists because the current MLB team is taking and the season appears to be over, but it seems that some have very unreasonable expectations for this young lad.

     

    Agreed. I notice the Garver chatter has become almost Buxton-like in its frenzy lately. He seems decent, but some of these posts make it sound like we've got a future All-Star in the wings. Garver hasn't even taken a MLB at bat yet. The probability that he's a long term, impact player is very low IMO. I think "Gaver Fever" exists because the current MLB team is taking and the season appears to be over, but it seems that some have very unreasonable expectations for this young lad.

     

    Or, no one has typed "future All Star", and he's 26 with an OPS of .900 in AAA, right handed, and was a bat first draft pick who they hoped could learn to catch who can offer value as a PH, C, potential platoon partner for Mauer, and if needed, can play in the OF in a situation where for some reason he's needed. 

    yeah, I'd be actively shopping Giminez whether a buyer or seller. I'd have to think Santana or Kintzler would be shopped. Not expecting much for Kitnzler. Perhaps 1 top 100 for Santana.

    A Giminez trade would be more about doing him a favor and clearing a spot for Garver than any type of meaningful return.

     

    Seems more like an August move.

     

    Agreed. I notice the Garver chatter has become almost Buxton-like in its frenzy lately. He seems decent, but some of these posts make it sound like we've got a future All-Star in the wings. Garver hasn't even taken a MLB at bat yet. The probability that he's a long term, impact player is very low IMO. I think "Gaver Fever" exists because the current MLB team is taking and the season appears to be over, but it seems that some have very unreasonable expectations for this young lad.

    With all due respect, bighat, Buxton came up at age 22 while posting a slash line of .283/.351/.489 (.840) in AA in 271 PA. Garver is posting .277/.382/.531 (.913) in 306 PA in AAA. He is 26 years old.

     

    I don't expect Garver to rescue the season, but his play this year has earned a call up. I think that's all people are asking for.

    I like Gimenez, but IMHO it's unlikely that after a couple hundred AB Garver's numbers in MLB will be less than the .196/.323/.366 (.689) that Chris is posting.

     

    My initial response was to someone who suggested a larger role. Not sure why you feel the need to jump in and twist the conversation.

    And I agree he should be up over a 13th (not 14th) pitcher.

     

    That someone would be me!

     

    And yes, given the choice of Castro, Gimenez, and Garver, I would much rather see Garver starting at catcher tonight for the Twins than the other two.

    That someone would be me!

     

    And yes, given the choice of Castro, Gimenez, and Garver, I would much rather see Garver starting at catcher tonight for the Twins than the other two.

    If they are giving up on the season I guess I wouldn't have a problem.

     

    Either way, Garver will get some decent run by the end of the year. I just would be sure to temper expectations a little.

     

    Garver does have an advantage this year, but Vargas outhit him the previous two years. And Vargas is at best a marginal big leaguer.

    I think Garver should be up sooner rather than later and he should carve out a nice mlb career, but people are getting way ahead of themselves here. Very Zack Granite like in their expectations.

     

    Garver = Granite? No way.

     

    Up until last year Granite wasn't on anyone's radar. He was (and basically still is)  a light-hitting speedster with a good glove at best. Did he ever crack the TD Top 20 prospects before this season? He's obviously not a bad player, but also has never had the potential of Garver.

     

    Garver has been a steady performer since he was drafted, putting up good numbers with the bat, showing well in the AFL (twice), and improving defensively to the point defense-superstar Stuart Turner was made available and lost. Throw in the fact Garver doesn't have a Buxton-type guy blocking his spot on the big league roster, and yeah, the comparison with Granite has no merit.

     

    And no one is comparing Garver to Buxton in terms of pure talent or ceiling, but he's much closer to that level of prospect than to what Granite is.

     

    Someone made a great point about Santana yesterday on another thread. We'd love to see the Twins trade for a solid veteran pitcher in the offseason. A guy who can eat innings, pick up wins, stop the bleeding and have an ERA somewhere in the 3.20 range. Isn't that what we have in Santana? Garcia is one thing - he's a rental. But the Twins have Santana under control and we need reliable starting pitching...I can see trading Santana only if the Twins are going "scorched earth" and trading everyone else as well. They'd better get quite a haul if they trade Santana. I'd much prefer the Twins kept him, myself!

    The price for a pitcher as you describe wanting would  cost at least three player and probably Berios. Archer hasn't even done  as well as the pitcher you want.

     

    I can see that... though I'd just go with Garver as the platoon with Mauer at 1B since he'd be $0.5M instead of $5M, and use that extra $4.5M on pitching. 

     

    I'm not 100% sold on Garver being ready for that. I know he's a darling of TD but he may have some adjusting to do going up to the bigs. In my mind, if he demands playing time, Danny Valencia is super easy to trade.

     

    I also think that with Castro at C and no real DH option, there's plenty of space for Garver to get time without making him a 1B platoon. I worry that if he struggles, we'll see Mauer playing every day and that's not ideal.

     

    Someone made a great point about Santana yesterday on another thread. We'd love to see the Twins trade for a solid veteran pitcher in the offseason. A guy who can eat innings, pick up wins, stop the bleeding and have an ERA somewhere in the 3.20 range. Isn't that what we have in Santana? Garcia is one thing - he's a rental. But the Twins have Santana under control and we need reliable starting pitching...I can see trading Santana only if the Twins are going "scorched earth" and trading everyone else as well. They'd better get quite a haul if they trade Santana. I'd much prefer the Twins kept him, myself!

    Not only that, but if you trade him and get a minor leaguer where there isn't any guarantee then you need to go out and sign a FA to replace him in the rotation, who by the way, will most likely be more expensive than Santana.  




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