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    Here's How to Make Room for Alex Kirilloff


    Hans Birkeland

    There isn't a perfect solution, but his potential is worth shuffling some players around.

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    It sucks for everyone when prospects get called up late. They hit free agency in their thirties when in a lot of cases, their performance is already starting to diminish. They get paid less, and there is also less to enjoy in the fan experience when all you see of a guy’s peak career is his late twenties.

    Michael Cuddyer is a good example, as he did not become a full-time player until his age-27 season and his defense was atrocious by the time he hit free agency. You especially want to give a young player runway at a young age if they have any chance to be a transcendent talent, and Alex Kirilloff’s hitting ability has been described as such. That said, he is 25 and the sheen over him owes a lot to what is unknown about him. 

    Trevor Larnach is a good counterpoint. He’s generally been playing well but we’ve seen the ups and downs of what he can do as a hitter. Pitchers have increasingly attacked him with offspeed and breaking pitches and he has had to make adjustments (though hadn’t he made that adjustment at the start of 2022?). The main point is, if Larnach can hit breaking stuff he will be a good to great hitter in the big leagues.

    For Kirilloff, we don’t even know what adjustments he will have to make to reach his uncertain, but probably high, ceiling. Does anyone remember how pitchers attack him? What bad hitting habits does he fall into when he’s healthy? Is he more of a .270/.310/.450 hitter due to an overly aggressive hitting approach? We have no idea.

    We have to find out. It’s too far into his career. As soon as he gets through a couple back-to-backs in Triple A, get him up here and get him in the lineup five times a week. That will require some lineup and defensive shuffling. With Byron Buxton continuing to require the DH slot, that means Joey Gallo needs to play center field.

    This isn’t conventional, and would result in worse defense in center, at least until Buxton returns to center field. It also would mean fewer at-bats, at least against righties, for Michael A. Taylor, who has been somewhat of a spark plug at the bottom of the lineup while contributing excellent center field defense. But Gallo hasn’t rated badly in center field in his career (zero outs above average, or OAA, in 58 career games), and Larnach deserves to continue his chance to prove himself.

    There are some strong opinions about what the Twins should do with their other starting outfielder, but cutting bait with Max Kepler right now would be incredibly unwise, for a couple reasons. One, Kepler is kind of hitting, especially since returning from his IL stint earlier in the month. His slugging percentage is up to .483 on the year after a two-hit showing in Saturday’s loss to the Royals.

    Second, the decline in defense going from Kepler to Gallo isn’t major, but it is significant. Kepler is one of the smoothest right fielders in Twins history, while Gallo is just really good. In terms of OAA, Kepler has been nineteen runs above average the past two years, while Gallo has been fairly neutral, albeit with a better throwing arm.

    Third, Kepler was kind of hitting last year before his toe injury. His line on June 1st was .260/.365/.440, and while it dipped before the injury occurred, his OPS was still above league average before he went on to post a .466 OPS while playing through a broken toe in August and September. If he’s a league-average hitter, that’s a three WAR player when you factor in his defense. With his club option for 2024, Kepler is basically under contract for two years, 18.5M. That is a tremendously valuable player, if even relatively healthy.

     

    The downside to letting Kepler keep starting in right field against righties would be if he gets hurt or falls off even further in performance. But if either of those things happen, the solution would be to install Taylor or Buxton back in center, and move Gallo to right. Problem solved. A much worse scenario would be to give up on Kepler and then see Kirilloff get hurt or not perform, resulting in a lot more Donovan Solano at first base.

    So let’s make it happen. Put Gallo in the middle of the field. It would be unfortunate for Michael A. Taylor, and a few more balls might fall in the gaps, but if Kepler, Gallo, and Larnach are going to remain among your top five or six hitters, you need to find a way to keep them in the lineup against righties. Moving Gallo to center also allows the team to gather the data they need to determine what Kirilloff (and Larnach) are going to be for them in this competitive window. Are they foundational pieces, platoon guys or trade bait?

    Of course injuries could solve every roster crunch the Twins face and then some. But while it's important to build depth in case of injury, it's also important to find out what kind of players you have. Fortunately for the Twins, the Texas Rangers found out Gallo could play center while trying to work in at-bats for Willie Calhoun and Nomar Mazara in 2019. Hopefully, every one of the Twins' young hitters end up with better careers than those one-tool journeymen, but there’s only one way to find out, and it could turn this team into an offensive juggernaut.

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    10 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

    Kirilloff will play in St. Paul for a couple of weeks for two good reasons: 1) the Twins want to see AK play at an elevated level to show where he is at as a baseball player, and 2) the Twins do not want to interrupt the current flow for a player who still needs to prove himself.

    When we hit mid May, Buxton should be able to play centerfield 3-4 days per week. Kirilloff should be on the plane to LA on May 14 if he continues to show what he has shown thus far. AK is that player who can hit for average and power.

     

    They can option him and recall him within 3 weeks and the option doesn't count.  I'm sure someone, aka Bux, Larnach, Kepler or Gallo, will go on the IL by then 

    2 hours ago, stringer bell said:

    Watching Gallo leg out a triple earlier in this homestand, perhaps his sprint speed might be underrated. I won’t dispute the numbers and Gallo might not be a viable choice in center field. We shall see. I think the die is cast that Alex Kirilloff will be optioned unless a position player injury occurs. 

    I mean that triple wasn't exactly him hitting one to the gap and using his top end speed to beat it out. It bounced 100 feet away from the right fielder after hitting the limestone. I agree that Kirilloff will be optioned and is waiting for an injury, or Buxton to start getting time in CF. They built this team on pitching and defense, and I don't see them sacrificing all that defense in CF to get him in the lineup. Doesn't seem to be their style.

    Edit to add: Looks like Kirilloff was officially activated, and optioned, yesterday. So it's not a guess anymore, AK is in AAA for a bit at least still.

    One of the assumptions is Kirilloff is a given at 1B.  I don't hold that assumption.  Gallo has played well at 1st and not see eager to move him to OF.  Yes, he has OF chops, but Kirilloff is a decent OF as well and that was his 1st position.  Nice to have a good roster jam vs just next man up and hope it fits

    We're making a lot of assumptions about a guy we've never seen play CF as compared to a guy that we HAVE seeb play CF who has played three times as many games in CF as the guy we've never seen AND has played it reasonably well.  Not to mention a strong arm in right tends to be a strong arm in center as well.

     

    On 4/30/2023 at 10:06 AM, TopGunn#22 said:

    I agree, the real solution is Buxton in CF but Hans is right.  Gallo in CF until Buxton starts playing there consistently is the best solution to getting Kirilloff INTO the lineup at 1B and keeping Larnach in the lineup in LF. 

    Buxton is 7-23 over last handful of games with 4 HR & 10 RBI. He’s started 25 of 29 games and PH in a 26th. Playing 90% of the time in ‘23.

    Has played 46% of the time in 7 of 8 seasons up until ‘23. Seems we should have tried something different?

    We have a Gold Glove CF 80% of the time with Taylor. Nick Gordon or Joey Gallo (former G Glove OF) the balance of time in CF.

    Byron is on pace to hit 39 HR if he keeps playing at this pace…….he’ll be in 145 games at this pace.

    Buxton will get 30 starts throughout the summer in CF……..it’s May 1, we’re on pace to win 95 games and everything seems to be going fine!

     

    7 hours ago, HrbieFan said:

    They can option him and recall him within 3 weeks and the option doesn't count.  I'm sure someone, aka Bux, Larnach, Kepler or Gallo, will go on the IL by then 

    One thing to remember is that Kirilloff can't be recalled unless someone goes on the IL for the next 10 days. It is probably fair to say that he might need to sustain good performance. Let's hope he can continue to produce and force his way onto the Twins roster.

    So I'm late to the thread. But here goes:

    1] Kirilloff is a great talent who might FINALLY be healthy enough to tap in to that talent! And I can't wait! But after he's been through, having a few more weeks to play more consecutive games is not going to hurt him, or his future.  This is the same fortunate/unfoetunate conundrum Ober had to face to start the season. Most of these things work themselves out.

    2] Farmer replaces Castro when ready to go in a few weeks. Stinks for Castro, who's done a decent job, still has some utility promise, and has an option to keep around.

    3] Brining up AK means someone has to be hurt, or someone not necessarily worthy of being moved has to happen. See point #1 again. 

    4] Gallo or Kepler in CF, to make room for AK in the lineup, is not a horrible idea. Between Taylor...who's doing great...sitting a day or two against a RHP, Buxton ramping up slowly with a game or two in CF, and Kepler or Gallo for a day or so, makes some sense. But barring some IL for someone, who gets cut at this point to make room on the roster?

    5] Not the first time this is a good/bad problem to have. Ober began at AAA. Varland is too good, as the Twins 2 time milb pitcher of the year, to be in AAA as well. Again, as we're seeing now, these things tend to work themselves out. Wallner, raking at AAA, and the reigning milb hitter of the year, is stuck behind AK! And what happens June/July when Lewis ready? So this is not the last "roster crunch" facing the Twins by any means.

    On 4/30/2023 at 11:24 AM, Hans Birkeland said:

    I'm sure all sorts of variables are at play, mental and physical, but if Gallo is neutral in both positions and Kepler is great in right and neutral in center you maximize the defense with Gallo in center. Or maybe they could do some sort of rotation,

    I think the rotation is the answer. Rotate Kepler, Larnach, Taylor, Gallo, Kirilloff, and to a lesser extent, Buxton. 

    This gives Kirilloff a couple days off a week and everyone else one day off a week, with maybe Taylor sucking up two days on the pine a week. Kepler sits against all the LHP. 

    Without an injury to one of those guys, that rotation seems like the best way forward.

    The question of who goes down is real tricky. Because yes you want Farmer and Solano over Gordon but what about next year? DFA'ing a guy with upside and five years of control is real dumb. I think if you can't rotate phantom (or real) injuries you cut Solano and eat his 2M. Or MAYBE we run out a 12 man pitching staff for a while.




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