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2 minutes ago, mrmpls said:

 they can turn a profit.-   and will when they sell for a way over priced product,  there not hurting

Never said they were hurting.  But they pulled the team off the market mainly because they weren't getting the price they thought they should get.  When you consider the Tampa Bay sale, they may have been correct, but I don't know what is or isn't in the books.

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2 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

What investments did you want him to make.  I don't think there was good direction during the offseason because of the ownership situation being in flux until December.  And what would trading for one big contract at the deadline have done.

This offseason will be the time to tell what direction they are going to take.

 

another Pohlad  Apologist--     they need to sell   - its our only way forward

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2 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

We have no way of knowing how much he is involved in day to day decision making if any.  There are only 30 of these jobs, there will be interest in the position if it became open.  It is not all about payroll, Milwaukee, Cleveland and Tampa seem to be able to find candidates.

That's not an answer to my comment. I said a good GM will want full authority and a good budget. You said we don't know if TP doesn't give full authority. 

What we know is irrelevant to what a good GM will insist upon. Without a firm commitment, a good GM candidate will pass, because they won't want to damage their reputation by following someone else's plan.

MLW/CLE/TBR all operate differently. STL and CHW are going that way, also. The Twins' organization operates more like LAA and COL.

Defend the Pohlads all you want, but their record and zig-zag strategy speak louder than any defense.

I'm not going to have this debate again.

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Posted
1 minute ago, djvang said:

Liberty biberty and Flo ads are automatic mutes.

Virtually EVERY ad is a testament to how we are perceived by the makers thereof...

Posted
Just now, mrmpls said:

another Pohlad  Apologist--     they need to sell   - its our only way forward

No I am a realist, it is about more than money.  Other teams can do it with less money but Falvey couldn't because he didn't do a good of developing players.  And that won't change no matter how much money you want to at the payroll if Zoll is allowed to stay.

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6 minutes ago, mrmpls said:

 they can turn a profit.-   and will when they sell for a way over priced product,  there not hurting

Pohlad's bought the Twins for $44M. They'll sell it for almost $2B. That's a bit of a profit

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Just now, HarmonK03 said:

No I am a realist, it is about more than money.  Other teams can do it with less money but Falvey couldn't because he didn't do a good of developing players.  And that won't change no matter how much money you want to at the payroll if Zoll is allowed to stay.

didnt  mean you -sorry  Meant Tom Pohlads agent  western

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1 minute ago, MeleMouth said:

That's not an answer to my comment. I said a good GM will want full authority and a good budget. You said we don't know if TP doesn't give full authority. 

What we know is irrelevant to what a good GM will insist upon. Without a firm commitment, a good GM candidate will pass, because they won't want to damage their reputation by following someone else's plan.

MLW/CLE/TBR all operate differently. STL and CHW are going that way, also. The Twins' organization operates more like LAA and COL.

Defend the Pohlads all you want, but their record and zig-zag strategy speak louder than any defense.

I'm not going to have this debate again.

You are making an assumption that TP isn't giving full authority.  There is nothing saying he is or isn't.

Posted
4 minutes ago, djvang said:

Liberty biberty and Flo ads are automatic mutes.

I keep hearing about how the insurance companies are hurting, yet they seem to have endless money for constant ads on just about every channel. Maybe if they cut their ads a little, they could cut their rates?

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Just now, MeleMouth said:

I keep hearing about how the insurance companies are hurting, yet they seem to have endless money for constant ads on just about every channel. Maybe if they cut their ads a little, they could cut their rates?

ya im sure Google is going broke also-    all Greedy S.O.B.

Posted
1 minute ago, HarmonK03 said:

You are making an assumption that TP isn't giving full authority.  There is nothing saying he is or isn't.

TP ...🙂threw me for a second...I always knew that abbreviation for toilet paper

Posted
1 minute ago, HarmonK03 said:

You are making an assumption that TP isn't giving full authority.  There is nothing saying he is or isn't.

Again, you're incorrectly reading what I wrote. 

Maybe you think a good GM would come to the Twins without guarantees about budget and no meddling?

Or maybe you just want to turn every comment into a gosh darn, ridic, totally unfair criticism of kind, warm, intelligent, generous, supplicative Tom Pohlad?

Enjoy the game.

Posted
3 minutes ago, HarmonK03 said:

What investments did you want him to make.  I don't think there was good direction during the offseason because of the ownership situation being in flux until December.  And what would trading for one big contract at the deadline have done.

This offseason will be the time to tell what direction they are going to take.

 

I'm not actually upset about the trade deadline deals they did.  I liked them.  My only criticism was that they should have been more aggressive in trading Jeffers and Larnach.  But none of that is Tom P's role, nor do I want it to be.  He is supposed to be paying someone that specializes in that to do that job.

Tom P admitted that they went too far in stripping down last year's team, especially the bullpen.  

ownership situation being in flux until December. - This has been an issue for some time with this family while owning the team.  I like Tom over Joe, but it has seemed for quite some time that there is nobody actually looking over the team from the family.  

I would love the team to invest in facilities and proper training staff, both in the major and minor leagues.  We have gone through how many years of players coming up and failure to launch?  With a small to mid-market team like the Twins, they can't afford to miss like they have been missing on their prospects.  That seems to be the difference between the Twins, Tampa, Cleveland, and Milwaukee.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Mortimerkenny21 said:

Ins and outs. Strikes and gutters. This whole situation has gotten very complex.

How have I missed the gutters? My focus is NOT what it used to be.

Posted
10 minutes ago, MeleMouth said:

I keep hearing about how the insurance companies are hurting, yet they seem to have endless money for constant ads on just about every channel. Maybe if they cut their ads a little, they could cut their rates?

Insurance companies aren't hurting.  State Farm just posted their best year ever and given their policy holders a dividend payout.  The dark secret is that they stripped their local agents of a ton of accrued benefits to pay for it.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Western SD Fan said:

I'm not actually upset about the trade deadline deals they did.  I liked them.  My only criticism was that they should have been more aggressive in trading Jeffers and Larnach.  But none of that is Tom P's role, nor do I want it to be.  He is supposed to be paying someone that specializes in that to do that job.

Tom P admitted that they went too far in stripping down last year's team, especially the bullpen.  

ownership situation being in flux until December. - This has been an issue for some time with this family while owning the team.  I like Tom over Joe, but it has seemed for quite some time that there is nobody actually looking over the team from the family.  

I would love the team to invest in facilities and proper training staff, both in the major and minor leagues.  We have gone through how many years of players coming up and failure to launch?  With a small to mid-market team like the Twins, they can't afford to miss like they have been missing on their prospects.  That seems to be the difference between the Twins, Tampa, Cleveland, and Milwaukee.

They need to sell ,  its been to long with them

Posted
3 minutes ago, Wedman13 said:

Can there please have a "Zoll sucks no matter what and has no plan" thread so others can join a game thread to see how the game is going and enjoy?  Same story every day

Maybe you can make a Pohlad Pocket Protectors thread where you can be with all the other optimistic suckers.

Posted
1 minute ago, mrmpls said:

DEREK  AS LONG AS TAJ LOOKS FINE -  LET HIM GO -   NO PITCH COUNT B.S.

Zoll's fault no plan 

Posted
1 minute ago, Western SD Fan said:

Insurance companies aren't hurting.  State Farm just posted their best year ever and given their policy holders a dividend payout.  The dark secret is that they stripped their local agents of a ton of accrued benefits to pay for it.

And yet homeowner's rates go up about 500X inflation and they blame it on fraud. Living on a prayer is how many people plan to pay their premiums.

Posted
1 minute ago, SE23 said:

Isn't it interesting that, the more boring the game gets, the more distracted this thread becomes! 🤪

Back to baseball.  Bradley is looking good and looks to finish his 2026 campaign with a quality start!  

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