bean5302 Verified Member Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, mark allen said: Andrew Morris wasn't a failed starter at all 33 minutes ago, DocBauer said: ...So I guess I'm also asking who exactly is a "failed starter"? Perkins was a failed ML starter. Duran was not. Just as past examples. Morris is not a failed starter, just a good arm the team can utilize in a new role in which he might excel. Might Rojas MAYBE be a NOT "failed starter" who could have a great career as a powerful reliever? I just don't believe in "failed starters" always becoming relievers, unless we're also discussing MILB prospects who also become quality relievers. A failed starter is a pitcher who is either pitching so poorly in the rotation they're hurting their team's chances at winning without expectations there's much untapped growth or a pitcher who has reached the point of call-up and they don't appear likely to be able to provide quality service in the rotation so they're moved to the bullpen. Morris certainly wasn't doing a lot to make his case as a starter during his time in AAA. His peripherals and expected metrics looked uninspiring while putting up numbers which often looked a lot like Randy Dobnak. Morris pitching out of the pen has allowed his K rate to come up, but once the scouting reports get out on him, I wonder if that will stick.
tony&rodney Verified Member Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, bean5302 said: A failed starter is a pitcher who is either pitching so poorly in the rotation they're hurting their team's chances at winning without expectations there's much untapped growth or a pitcher who has reached the point of call-up and they don't appear likely to be able to provide quality service in the rotation so they're moved to the bullpen. Morris certainly wasn't doing a lot to make his case as a starter during his time in AAA. His peripherals and expected metrics looked uninspiring while putting up numbers which often looked a lot like Randy Dobnak. Morris pitching out of the pen has allowed his K rate to come up, but once the scouting reports get out on him, I wonder if that will stick. You remain consistent, having commented in the past that Andrew Morris was not an MLB pitcher and that his stuff wouldn't play; you don't believe in Morris. Pitching is not easy to predict for anyone. I have been high on Morris for a couple of years. The numbers will tell the story in time. In the period from 2024- now, I have seen Morris pitch many times .... the majority of his appearances. I don't believe I can state an argument for him in an unequivocal fashion but I do believe in him finding success and his emergence at some point (next year?) as a successful starting pitcher would not be a surprise to me. I wonder how many times others have watched him pitch prior to his recent Twins gig. Kendry Rojas has to learn some of the same skills as Morris is learning - what does it take to create outs against the best hitters. While I do trust the Twins to make a good decision for him, I also believe he can benefit from pitching in relief this season.
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