Cory Engelhardt Verified Member Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 Not specifically Twins related but I thought this was a fun trade to read about. What this does tell me is Baltimore is going to be in the market for pitching they can trust. Doctor Wu 1
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 My immediate thought is: How bad is Grayson's arm? The medicals have to have a question mark. Pre-Arb with 4 years of control traded for an OF with 1 year of control left at 13 million? Doctor Wu, chpettit19, Cory Engelhardt and 2 others 5
Cory Engelhardt Verified Member Posted November 19, 2025 Author Posted November 19, 2025 1 hour ago, Riverbrian said: My immediate thought is: How bad is Grayson's arm? The medicals have to have a question mark. Pre-Arb with 4 years of control traded for an OF with 1 year of control left at 13 million? Agreed with this. Ward is a good player, and this is definitely a gamble. Even if Rodriguez misses time, this is 4 years of value. Riverbrian 1
The Great Hambino Verified Member Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 This feels like a move the Twins would make (taking on risky medicals to save money and bet on upside), minus the part where Arte Moreno eventually gives Rodriguez a nine-figure extension after six promising starts ashbury and chpettit19 2
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 Very odd trade. MGX and chpettit19 2
MGX Verified Member Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 5 hours ago, Riverbrian said: My immediate thought is: How bad is Grayson's arm? The medicals have to have a question mark. Pre-Arb with 4 years of control traded for an OF with 1 year of control left at 13 million? Agree 100%. Additionally, the O's have plenty of position players & were already in need of pitching.
Riverbrian Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 4 minutes ago, MGX said: Agree 100%. Additionally, the O's have plenty of position players & were already in need of pitching. 13 Millions is a decent price for what Ward produced last season. However... we are still talking about the Orioles and 13 million is 13 million that can't be spent elsewhere and their pockets have always had limitations. PItching has been often quoted by many as the primary need in Baltimore so... everything just loudly points to what is wrong with Grayson. Currently Baltimore has Ward, O'Neil, Cowser, Beavers, Kjerstad, Taveras and Trimble for 40 man OF options. None of them are decent CF candidates too my knowledge. My guess is that Baltimore could be headed toward some decent size turnover this off-season. MGX, ashbury and The Great Hambino 3
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 1 hour ago, Riverbrian said: 13 Millions is a decent price for what Ward produced last season. However... we are still talking about the Orioles and 13 million is 13 million that can't be spent elsewhere and their pockets have always had limitations. PItching has been often quoted by many as the primary need in Baltimore so... everything just loudly points to what is wrong with Grayson. Currently Baltimore has Ward, O'Neil, Cowser, Beavers, Kjerstad, Taveras and Trimble for 40 man OF options. None of them are decent CF candidates too my knowledge. My guess is that Baltimore could be headed toward some decent size turnover this off-season. Leody Taveras came up as a guy who could go get it in CF. I don't know what he's like these days (I don't watch a lot of Leody highlights) so I'm not sure what his CF prospects are now, but I'd guess his bat is the far bigger concern. I don't really understand this trade. It's very interesting. Feels like Baltimore is starting to really regret their refusal to move prospects for MLB pieces the last few years and now they're trying to be more aggressive. Possibly because Elias is feeling some heat. MGX and Riverbrian 2
The Great Hambino Verified Member Posted November 19, 2025 Posted November 19, 2025 1 hour ago, Riverbrian said: 13 Millions is a decent price for what Ward produced last season. However... we are still talking about the Orioles and 13 million is 13 million that can't be spent elsewhere and their pockets have always had limitations. PItching has been often quoted by many as the primary need in Baltimore so... everything just loudly points to what is wrong with Grayson. Currently Baltimore has Ward, O'Neil, Cowser, Beavers, Kjerstad, Taveras and Trimble for 40 man OF options. None of them are decent CF candidates too my knowledge. My guess is that Baltimore could be headed toward some decent size turnover this off-season. In addition, adding a player like Ward with only one year of control at that price point tells me the Orioles are still interested in competing, which means they are really on the lookout for quality, relatively cheap pitching. Can anyone think of a team in a position to potentially move some quality, relatively cheap pitching? I can think of one. MGX and Riverbrian 2
DJL44 Old-Timey Member Posted November 25, 2025 Posted November 25, 2025 On 11/19/2025 at 12:51 PM, The Great Hambino said: In addition, adding a player like Ward with only one year of control at that price point tells me the Orioles are still interested in competing, which means they are really on the lookout for quality, relatively cheap pitching. Can anyone think of a team in a position to potentially move some quality, relatively cheap pitching? I can think of one. Sure, but not for outfielders
Chembry Verified Member Posted November 26, 2025 Posted November 26, 2025 The other really interesting piece to this trade is that the Angels agreed to the trade and didn’t require any medical evaluation for Rodriguez…Rodriguez himself confirmed it on the foul territory podcast. Other podcasts that I listened to speculated that if the Angels get 150-200 innings out of him over the next 4 years, they come out ahead. Elias is definitely gambling with this trade, but maybe they try to extend Ward?
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