USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 I wanted some experience but this is Rocco 2.0. I don't expect play to improve. Sad. Vanimal46 1
Linus Verified Member Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 23 minutes ago, USAFChief said: I wanted some experience but this is Rocco 2.0. I don't expect play to improve. Sad. Yep. My only hope is he will hold players to a higher standard relative to fundamentals
Vanimal46 Old-Timey Member Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 23 minutes ago, USAFChief said: I wanted some experience but this is Rocco 2.0. I don't expect play to improve. Sad. As expected when Derek Falvey has as much power as he does. It’s unbelievable he’s going to lead a full rebuild in year 10 of his tenure. We have been talking ball on this website for over a decade now… I have never been more disinterested in the team. USAFChief and Hosken Bombo Disco 2
USAFChief Twins Daily Contributor Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 55 minutes ago, Linus said: Yep. My only hope is he will hold players to a higher standard relative to fundamentals One of the failures of his previous tenure was poor fundamentals and a seeming lack of any interest in improving them. Similar to Rocco. Maybe he's changed priorities.
Hosken Bombo Disco Community Moderator Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 I’m not actually down on Shelton, just based on tidbits I would pick up while listening to the radio during the 2019 season. that said, we need someone who will do this to the data Falvey is feeding us “here are your spreadsheets”
dxpavelka Verified Member Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 14 hours ago, jmlease1 said: Or they simply can't communicate how they were able to do something to players with lesser talent. One of the biggest issues today is the stars have made so much money, they don't need the job or the income. Many of them already have other business interests that are more impactful on their lives. (Torii Hunter might make more off his BBQ empire than he would as a MLB manager) Exactly why Torii was never the man for the job
the_brute_squad Verified Member Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 On 10/26/2025 at 11:41 AM, dxpavelka said: anyone who gets the job and gets paid by the team will be whatever Falvey wants them to be. Kind of how stuff works. Let me introduce to you Mr. Billy Martin
dxpavelka Verified Member Posted October 30, 2025 Posted October 30, 2025 1 hour ago, the_brute_squad said: Let me introduce to you Mr. Billy Martin I've heard of him. He's dead. As for the argument you're trying to make--probably why he got fired nine times.
the_brute_squad Verified Member Posted October 31, 2025 Posted October 31, 2025 21 hours ago, dxpavelka said: I've heard of him. He's dead. As for the argument you're trying to make--probably why he got fired nine times. My apologies. I was injecting a little humor toward your statement. He got fired multiple times from the Yankees because Steinbrenner fired managers more than he changed underwear. He punched Boswell in MN, Aside from that, it kinda works in many different ways.
dxpavelka Verified Member Posted October 31, 2025 Posted October 31, 2025 2 hours ago, the_brute_squad said: My apologies. I was injecting a little humor toward your statement. He got fired multiple times from the Yankees because Steinbrenner fired managers more than he changed underwear. He punched Boswell in MN, Aside from that, it kinda works in many different ways. Don't get me wrong. I'd love a firebrand like Billy. When's the last time you saw one managing a big league ball club? Bruce Bochy & Terry Francona and MAYBE Dusty Baker are the closest we've seen in the last couple decades. I suppose you could put TK and Gardy near that level but not really. Sadly those guys have gone the way of the 9 inning complete game pitcher and the 40 games started pitcher. The game is not better for it. the_brute_squad 1
purplesoldier4u Verified Member Posted November 4, 2025 Posted November 4, 2025 On 10/28/2025 at 12:43 PM, TNtwins85 said: What was Gardy known for? Continually getting the most out of some very dismal rosters that Terry Ryan gave him. Tell me I’m wrong. Gardy had some darn good players under him! His problem was his love for the "BYTO" type of guys that shouldn't be starters. Then again, I guess Mauer, Morneau, Hunter, Cuddyer, Santana, Cuddyer, Liriano, Kubel, Radke, Nathan, Jones, Guzman, Koskie, Mientkiewicz, Thome, etc. were all not that great after all. TNtwins85 1
TNtwins85 Verified Member Posted November 4, 2025 Posted November 4, 2025 17 hours ago, purplesoldier4u said: Gardy had some darn good players under him! His problem was his love for the "BYTO" type of guys that shouldn't be starters. Then again, I guess Mauer, Morneau, Hunter, Cuddyer, Santana, Cuddyer, Liriano, Kubel, Radke, Nathan, Jones, Guzman, Koskie, Mientkiewicz, Thome, etc. were all not that great after all. Everyone can name the big guys. Can you name the other guys who contributed? He had good players of course. They won the division how many times? You don’t do that without good players but you need other guys to compete to the best of their abilities as well right? So who would you have wanted instead of Gardy? Who would you have wanted other than Baldelli? Who did you want other than Shelton? Would your guy have brought them further in the playoffs than these guys? Doubt it. As far as a culture guy and a guy who pushed his teams to the most their ability could give I don’t believe you can name any other Twins manager other than Gardy and TK. For all the bellyaching about Baldelli and crying about how baseball isn’t fair because of the Yankees and dodgers and …. And …. Y’all can’t even get on the same page for anything. Can’t even acknowledge that the Twins have had good managers. Y’all living in a video game and not in reality.
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