jorgenswest Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 The Twins need catchers with good receiving skills at all levels. It helps the pitchers and their development. Turner wasn't going to last until their next pick. The catching pool is very small as is the middle infield pool. Hopefully they will use their international budget to sign some middle infielders.
Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 His floor is a backup catcher if he learns to hit the baseball. Danny Lehmann.
cmathewson Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 For what it's worth, 2013 Prospect Rankings: Catchers | MLB Draft Countdown rated him the third best catcher in the draft and the best college catcher
Ozziedavisfan Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 yes! we drafted drew butera again in the 3rd round
Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 And Denney goes three picks after him. For real?
Ozziedavisfan Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 And Denney goes three picks after him. For real? my point exactly
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 yes! we drafted drew butera again in the 3rd round Haha
Kwak Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 A team can't have too many no-stick Catchers! Project him to be a starter (25%)-both Buteras started so not unreal.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 And Denney goes three picks after him. For real? my point exactlyYou realize Denney wasn't going to be cheap, the Twins may have not had it in the budget.
nicksaviking Community Moderator Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 This pick makes me think the Reece McGuire bluff perhaps was not a bluff after all. Anyone unhappy with picking Eades in round 2 due to lack of upside is probably going to throw a fit about this one.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Have to think Biggio/Boldt are unsignable now joining Jones/Serrano. I'm 4th round guess Dace Kime went right after the Twins third pick...but Mitchell is still around!
CwK Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Dang. My guy, Jan Hernandez, just went off the board. Love those PR middle infielders!
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Twins weren't going to sign Denney with the pool money they'd have left. (There's also concerns about Denney's ability to stay behind the plate.) It's really annoying how people reach for illusory points to criticize the Twins draft approach.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Twins weren't going to sign Denney with the pool money they'd have left. (There's also concerns about Denney's ability to stay behind the plate.) It's really annoying how people reach for illusory points to criticize the Twins draft approach. At this point no one knows who is signing for what. It isn't like the Red Sox have more pool money than us. No team is going over the 5% over threshold. Are people not aloud to prefer other talent on the board?
Ozziedavisfan Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 You realize Denney wasn't going to be cheap, the Twins may have not had it in the budget. I realize that you can't get real excited about anyone you probably you can't sign, but it would nice for once if the twins went for someone with upside potential in the later rounds rather than doing what the twins do which is stick to slot and draft guys like turner who is basiclly like every other catcher the twins have draft since joe mauer.
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Are people not aloud to prefer other talent on the board?This is a loaded question. The thing is I would have preferred Denney, too (at least at first blush). It's fine to voice your preference but to extend that as some kind of criticism of the Twins or to bemoan the state of the draft class seems unnecessarily inflammatory to me.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 At this point no one knows who is signing for what. It isn't like the Red Sox have more pool money than us. No team is going over the 5% over threshold. Are people not aloud to prefer other talent on the board?It is pretty obvious why the Twins didn't pick Denney (or a **** ton of other teams!) Wasting a third round pick on a guy you probably couldn't sign does nothing. If we get a serviceable back up catcher in the third round, then I would be pretty happy to be honest. There is nothing wrong with some "safe" picks, those safe picks can save the big league club millions of dollars in the future if they can be rostered at the league minimum.
Vervehound Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 boom! there's your upside with gonsalves. surprised....
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 boom! there's your upside with gonsalves. surprised.... Love it! Twins love LHPs and they finally got one.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Gonsalves-- nice pick! A high school lefty, Gonsalves had a very good summer, pitching well at the Area Code Games and the Perfect Game All-American Classic, though an inconsistent spring had some wondering just how high he'd go on Draft day.This is a pretty decent class for prep southpaws, and with his size and projectability, Gonsalves has the upside to be the best of the lot. He uses a full overhand delivery to fire 88-91 mph fastballs, though he was up to 93 mph at the Perfect Game Classic. He'll throw a plus changeup at times to go along with a slurve, which is a bit of a concern to scouts. So was the fact he struggled with his command for parts of the spring after a fairly successful summer on the showcase/USA Baseball tour. Still, many teams will have trouble looking past the ceiling and Gonsalves still has the chance to hear his name called fairly early in the Draft
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Class: HSHeight: 6'05" Weight: 190Bats: L Throws: LComments: A high school lefty, Gonsalves had a very good summer, pitching well at the Area Code Games and the Perfect Game All-American Classic, though an inconsistent spring had some wondering just how high he'd go on Draft day.This is a pretty decent class for prep southpaws, and with his size and projectability, Gonsalves has the upside to be the best of the lot. He uses a full overhand delivery to fire 88-91 mph fastballs, though he was up to 93 mph at the Perfect Game Classic. He'll throw a plus changeup at times to go along with a slurve, which is a bit of a concern to scouts. So was the fact he struggled with his command for parts of the spring after a fairly successful summer on the showcase/USA Baseball tour. Still, many teams will have trouble looking past the ceiling and Gonsalves still has the chance to hear his name called fairly early in the Draft
InfraRen Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I like it when they analyze your pick with "at one point could have gone in the 1st round"
PseudoSABR Verified Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 This is a pretty decent class for prep southpaws, and with his size and projectability, Gonsalves has the upside to be the best of the lot.I like that sentence.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 I figured he was off the board already... Love this pick.
rickyhawaii Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 good pick on Gonsalves, good draft so far.
diehardtwinsfan Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Hey, by any chance is Carlos Salazar still on the board? That's another high upside kid I'd love to see them nab.
DaveW Old-Timey Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 So where do we think Stewart fits into the Twins top ten: My uniformed opinion is:1. Buxton2. Sano3. Stewart4. Arcia5. Meyer6. Gibson7. Rosario
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 From Chris Crawford: Very interesting risk by the #Twins here for Gonsalves. Really struggled, and the obvious character concerns. Could be a value play. Nathan Rides: LHP Stephen Gonsalves didn't take the step forward guys hoped for this sprung. Still has projectable stuff though.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Hey, by any chance is Carlos Salazar still on the board? That's another high upside kid I'd love to see them nab. No. Went to the Braves in the 100s.
cmb0252 Provisional Member Posted June 7, 2013 Posted June 7, 2013 Twin's 9th round pick last year Mazzilli goes in the 4th round to the mets at 116
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