VIKES @ BENGALS 12/16/23

[Mike Sixel]

Just now, Aggies7 said:

How do we not hand it to the guy who had over 100 yards? Coached ourselves to a loss 

Terrible coaching 

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

How do we not hand it to the guy who had over 100 yards? Coached ourselves to a loss 

Yeah, I want to have a team that can run the QB sneak at a 95% clip too, but they don't seem to have the personnel, and based on those two plays, they don't practice it enough either.

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

I always prefer winning over losing. We don’t win another game with Hall at quarterback

I'd rather be 4-13 than 8-9. I only want to win a Super Bowl, and 8-9 makes it that much more difficult. 

[Aggies7]

Someone has to explain to me how Jake browning led 4 scoring drives out of the last 5? Last two without chase. Please explain 

[Vanimal46]

1 minute ago, nicksaviking said:

Yeah, I want to have a team that can run the QB sneak at a 95% clip too, but they don't seem to have the personnel, and based on those two plays, they don't practice it enough either.

The Eagles prove week after week that the proper personnel is needed to execute the QB sneak at a high level. 90% of teams don’t. And we certainly don’t. Our interior lineman are not road graters they are light, athletic types. 

[Aggies7]

2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I'd rather be 4-13 than 8-9. I only want to win a Super Bowl, and 8-9 makes it that much more difficult. 

Yes but we can’t remove 3 wins. I’d prefer to not lose a playoff spot, especially to the packers 

[AlwaysinModeration]

2 minutes ago, Vanimal46 said:

The Eagles prove week after week that the proper personnel is needed to execute the QB sneak at a high level. 90% of teams don’t. And we certainly don’t. Our interior lineman are not road graters they are light, athletic types. 

And Jason Kelce says the play is an absolutely brutal, draining play.

[Hosken Bombo Disco]

2 minutes ago, AlwaysinModeration said:

And Jason Kelce says the play is an absolutely brutal, draining play.

Then probably not a play you can expect to run effectively a second time 

[Aggies7]

24 points allowed in the final 20 minutes, shocking 

[Aggies7]

I’m physically sick to my stomach 

[Parfigliano]

16 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

I haven't cared about an empty playoff appearance all year long. 

Making playoffs then getting whalloped just doesnt do it for me

[Aggies7]

1 minute ago, Parfigliano said:

Making playoffs then getting whalloped just doesnt do it for me

What does 8-9 and watching the packers get in over us do for you?

[Parfigliano]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

What does 8-9 and watching the packers get in over us do for you?

The enjoyment of a packer playoff loss

[Vanimal46]

12 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Then probably not a play you can expect to run effectively a second time 

Especially with a 5’8” 180 lb WR as the guy tasked to push Mullens over the finish line. 

What is CJ Ham doing on this team if we are not giving him the opportunity to gain 1 chain link?

[Aggies7]

I’m so disgusted ugh

[Mike Sixel]

I've preached patience with KoC, but he needs to start showing growth.

Playing Dobbs last week was brutal. Those sneaks were awful. 

I'm done with him, the team isn't. 

[nicksaviking]

1 hour ago, Aggies7 said:

I’m physically sick to my stomach 

 

1 hour ago, Aggies7 said:

What does 8-9 and watching the packers get in over us do for you?

Exactly why 4-13 is better. You can better build for the future and the only losses that make you sick to your stomach are the ones to the Packers. If this team had 4 wins, we'd be laughing at the ineptness, not languishing in frustration. I'm still watching the games, it's not like I haven't watched bad Vikings teams before.

Anything other than being an elite NFL team is pointless in this league.

[Mike Sixel]

2 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

 

Exactly why 4-13 is better. You can better build for the future and the only losses that make you sick to your stomach are the ones to the Packers. If this team had 4 wins, we'd be laughing at the ineptness, not languishing in frustration. I'm still watching the games, it's not like I haven't watched bad Vikings teams before.

Anything other than being an elite NFL team is pointless in this league.

I am old enough to enjoy the ride, but if your team is all around mediocre, I generally agree.... But am not so committed to SB or bust anymore

[Aggies7]

5 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

 

Exactly why 4-13 is better. You can better build for the future and the only losses that make you sick to your stomach are the ones to the Packers.

If they were 4-9 going into this game, I’d agree. Now they absolutely have to go 2-1 in their final 3 and one of the wins must be against GB. Draft pick positioning is long since done at this point 

[nicksaviking]

1 minute ago, Aggies7 said:

If they were 4-9 going into this game, I’d agree. Now they absolutely have to go 2-1 in their final 3 and one of the wins must be against GB. Draft pick positioning is long since done at this point 

Not if it means trading up six spots for a QB you want instead of two spots. Or standing pat and missing one altogether.

I understood the argument last year better. They clearly didn't have an elite team, but they had an elite record. It was a fun season. This one isn't, and won't be even if they win out.

[Aggies7]

27 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Not if it means trading up six spots for a QB you want instead of two spots. Or standing pat and missing one altogether.

I understood the argument last year better. They clearly didn't have an elite team, but they had an elite record. It was a fun season. This one isn't, and won't be even if they win out.

I can’t understand the idea of wanting your team to lose or being ok with it. Why even watch the games then. There’s a big difference when you’re 2-14 playing a meaningless season finale as opposed to fighting for a playoff spot. There was nothing remotely enjoyable about the way today unfolded. Any realistic chances went out the window when Kirk got hurt, but it would be fun to see them qualify for a spot anyway. They’d be heavy underdogs on the road, much different from last year when everyone knew they were fraudulent but still should have beaten the giants 

[nicksaviking]

6 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

I can’t understand the idea of wanting your team to lose or being ok with it. Why even watch the games then. There’s a big difference when you’re 2-14 playing a meaningless season finale as opposed to fighting for a playoff spot. There was nothing remotely enjoyable about the way today unfolded. Any realistic chances went out the window when Kirk got hurt, but it would be fun to see them qualify for a spot anyway. They’d be heavy underdogs on the road, much different from last year when everyone knew they were fraudulent but still should have beaten the giants 

Uh, I DO want the team to win. I want them to win it all. Looking at the Vikings one game at a time, and only one game at a time is myopic. If you don’t look big picture, you’ll never get to the top.
 

[Aggies7]

11 minutes ago, nicksaviking said:

Uh, I DO want the team to win. I want them to win it all. Looking at the Vikings one game at a time, and only one game at a time is myopic. If you don’t look big picture, you’ll never get to the top.
 

Again though, we aren’t 4-10. The big picture is that the team can stink next year. The first round draft pick QB can bust. Flores can be hired elsewhere and the defense can regress. You can still win while planning for the future. Everyone understands what the ceiling is for 2023. Would you rather a playoff game where you’d be playing with house money and the team can get more playoff experience or an 8-9 finish? 4-13 isn’t an option any more 

[Aggies7]

Someone will be 7-7 tomorrow out of the Bucs and packers. Then have to root for the giants, commanders, panthers and eagles 😂

[Aggies7]

By the way, 300 yards and a 99 rating for Mullens today

[Mike Sixel]

6 minutes ago, Aggies7 said:

By the way, 300 yards and a 99 rating for Mullens today

Imagine if his brain worked on the two interceptions

[Aggies7]

6 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Imagine if his brain worked on the two interceptions

Second one was inexcusable. 

[Aggies7]

 

[Aggies7]

 

[sampleSizeOfOne]

What i miss?