Should the Twins Give Ryan Jeffers a Look at First Base?

[Mike Sixel]

Made up stat. Priceless. 

[dxpavelka]

11 hours ago, Major League Ready said:

You didn't answer the question.  What is deficient about wRC+?  Here is what Fangraphs says about wRC+

If you’ve looking to measure a batter’s value using a cumulative statistic that credits a player for total production rather than on an at bat by at bat basis, then wRC is extremely useful. It combines the virtues of a weighted statistic like wOBA, which credits a hitter for how valuable each particular action truly is, with the virtues of counting stats that give players credit for producing at a given level over a great number of plate appearances. wRC isn’t necessarily better or worse than wRAA, it’s simply the same statistic communicated differently. Both provide you with a measure of how many runs a player contributed to his team with their bat.

If you want a rate statistic for hitters that weights each offensive action and controls for league and park effects, wRC+ is for you. While wOBA is a huge step forward from stats like batting average and slugging percentage, it doesn’t credit hitters who play in difficult parks or deduct points for hitters who play in smaller ones. wRC+ brings all the virtues of wOBA plus two added benefits; park and league adjustments. A .400 wOBA at Coors is much less impressive than one at Petco, for example. Additionally, wOBA tracks with overall league offense, so you can’t use it to compare players of different eras very effectively. A .400 wOBA in 2000 is much less impressive than one in 2014, but a 140 wRC+ in 2000 means essentially the same thing in 2014.

Here is another article entitled baseball statistics you should know.  It states wRC+ is the single best way to quickly measure a player’s offensive production, better than batting average, OPS, or a triple slash line. That’s because wRC+ properly values everything a player can do at the plate, allowing you to compare across playing styles. At the end of the day, despite the difference in playing styles, a slapstick hitter and a slugger are trying to create runs, and wRC+ allows you to easily compare the production.

Baseball stats you should know.  

What you don't understand is that wRC+ is calculated by combining a number of performance metrics and is therefore a far more comprehensive stat than most.  BA is useless without OBP and slugging.  RBI is useless without know the number of opportunities and conversion rate., etc.  

 

yawn.  don't pretend to tell me what I "should" know.  I don't give a c@!# about players "trying to create runs" what I care about is players "creating" runs.

 

[Major League Ready]

7 hours ago, dxpavelka said:

yawn.  don't pretend to tell me what I "should" know.  I don't give a c@!# about players "trying to create runs" what I care about is players "creating" runs.

 

I am perfectly willing to listen why your account of wRC+ is better reasoned than the folks at Fangraphs.  Let's hear why wRC+ is a bad stat instead of insisting without any explanation.  The "I don't give a rip without any explanation is let's just say not very credible.  

BTW ... We can also use OPS+ to show Jeffers is the far superior bat which I believe someone else mentioned.  Of course, OPS+ does measure what happened.

[dxpavelka]

6 minutes ago, Major League Ready said:

I am perfectly willing to listen why your account of wRC+ is better reasoned than the folks at Fangraphs.  Let's hear why wRC+ is a bad stat instead of insisting without any explanation.  The "I don't give a rip without any explanation is let's just say not very credible.  

BTW ... We can also use OPS+ to show Jeffers is the far superior bat which I believe someone else mentioned.  Of course, OPS+ does measure what happened.

I never said it is a "bad" stat just said that I don't have much use or time for it.  Probably because I spend too much time attending all of the Twins parades since they've become so ensconced in the advanced analytics game.  Or Tampa Bay parades.  Can't forget the Dodgers parades since they've fallen on the altar AND had more payroll money than God.  Bottom line is the bottom line.  Advanced analytics are an excellent way of predicting the past.