Parfigliano Verified Member Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 I have been watching the Mets vs Rays series cause my "other team" is the Mets. I've noticed Rays hitters approach no matter pitch or count isn't swing for the fences. They work counts and don't try to pull everything.
August J Gloop Verified Member Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 The Twins don't swing for the fences and try to pull everything as a systemic decree. The Rays have seen some career best spans for several marginal players all at once to compliment the existing good players and patented pitching. But if you look at the splits, you'll see that pulling the ball results in consistently better OPS than up the middle or the other way.
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 I will point out that Tampa is leading the league in HRs, by 12 over the 2nd place Braves, and have 26 more than the Twins. If they've "lucked" into 26 more homeruns without even trying the league is in trouble. And they're currently chasing pitches .1% more than the Twins. They do pull the ball less frequently, though. The Rays are absolutely on fire to start the year, and have been more successful at doing what the Twins try to do, take contact hitters and add power. Some Twins fans were mad the Twins tried to get more power out of Austin Martin, but that's the exact move that's lead the Rays to where they are. They took contact guys, like Franco and Diaz, and have gotten them to hit for power without losing much, if any, contact ability. It was what the Twins were doing with Steer before they traded him, but he's not as talented as Franco or Diaz so the results won't be as good.
rwilfong86 Verified Member Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, chpettit19 said: I will point out that Tampa is leading the league in HRs, by 12 over the 2nd place Braves, and have 26 more than the Twins. If they've "lucked" into 26 more homeruns without even trying the league is in trouble. And they're currently chasing pitches .1% more than the Twins. They do pull the ball less frequently, though. The Rays are absolutely on fire to start the year, and have been more successful at doing what the Twins try to do, take contact hitters and add power. Some Twins fans were mad the Twins tried to get more power out of Austin Martin, but that's the exact move that's lead the Rays to where they are. They took contact guys, like Franco and Diaz, and have gotten them to hit for power without losing much, if any, contact ability. It was what the Twins were doing with Steer before they traded him, but he's not as talented as Franco or Diaz so the results won't be as good. The Rays are/were on pace to break the 307 HR record the Twins just set.
chpettit19 Community Moderator Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, rwilfong86 said: The Rays are/were on pace to break the 307 HR record the Twins just set. I expect them to fade. No offense to Taylor Walls, or Jose Siri, but those guys can't maintain their current paces. Walls is 1 off his career high in just 33 games played. Siri had a 24 HR season in low-A in 2017, but has never topped 16 in any other season. He's at 6 in 22 games played. Harold Ramirez hit 11 in 119 games his rookie year with Miami, and hasn't topped 7 since. He's at 6 in 32 games. It'd be more shocking than the Bomba Squad if this team breaks that record. Lot's of career months to start the year. Good for them, and I hope those guys all turn into good players over the long haul. But it's not likely.
rwilfong86 Verified Member Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, chpettit19 said: I expect them to fade. No offense to Taylor Walls, or Jose Siri, but those guys can't maintain their current paces. Walls is 1 off his career high in just 33 games played. Siri had a 24 HR season in low-A in 2017, but has never topped 16 in any other season. He's at 6 in 22 games played. Harold Ramirez hit 11 in 119 games his rookie year with Miami, and hasn't topped 7 since. He's at 6 in 32 games. It'd be more shocking than the Bomba Squad if this team breaks that record. Lot's of career months to start the year. Good for them, and I hope those guys all turn into good players over the long haul. But it's not likely. Agreed. The only way I think it is possible is if the balls are juiced, with MLB, who knows.
Doctor Gast Verified Member Posted May 18, 2023 Posted May 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Parfigliano said: I have been watching the Mets vs Rays series cause my "other team" is the Mets. I've noticed Rays hitters approach no matter pitch or count isn't swing for the fences. They work counts and don't try to pull everything. That's what made them a better hitting team.
Parfigliano Verified Member Posted May 19, 2023 Author Posted May 19, 2023 8 hours ago, chpettit19 said: I will point out that Tampa is leading the league in HRs, by 12 over the 2nd place Braves, and have 26 more than the Twins. If they've "lucked" into 26 more homeruns without even trying the league is in trouble. And they're currently chasing pitches .1% more than the Twins. They do pull the ball less frequently, though. The Rays are absolutely on fire to start the year, and have been more successful at doing what the Twins try to do, take contact hitters and add power. Some Twins fans were mad the Twins tried to get more power out of Austin Martin, but that's the exact move that's lead the Rays to where they are. They took contact guys, like Franco and Diaz, and have gotten them to hit for power without losing much, if any, contact ability. It was what the Twins were doing with Steer before they traded him, but he's not as talented as Franco or Diaz so the results won't be as good. A+
Doctor Wu Verified Member Posted May 19, 2023 Posted May 19, 2023 16 hours ago, chpettit19 said: I expect them to fade. No offense to Taylor Walls, or Jose Siri, but those guys can't maintain their current paces. Walls is 1 off his career high in just 33 games played. Siri had a 24 HR season in low-A in 2017, but has never topped 16 in any other season. He's at 6 in 22 games played. Harold Ramirez hit 11 in 119 games his rookie year with Miami, and hasn't topped 7 since. He's at 6 in 32 games. It'd be more shocking than the Bomba Squad if this team breaks that record. Lot's of career months to start the year. Good for them, and I hope those guys all turn into good players over the long haul. But it's not likely. Yeah, I've noticed that MANY of the Rays players seem to be having career years thus far in the season. Hey, maybe they can sustain those numbers, but as you said, it's doubtful.
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