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Our young phenom’s name is Luis Arraez.

The problem is, everyone’s hurt, or we might be seeing Raley or Rooker getting a shot in the outfield. I would give Cave a fair shake, let him get more time with Rowson and Rudy to see if they can get him back to where he was last year.

I’d like to see Zander Wiel get a chance, but he shouldn’t be playing CF.

 

Cave shouldn't play CF either, so I'm not sure why that matters.

 

I don't know what Arraez has to do with this discussion......

 

There is a difference between "the guys in AA aren't ready", and "the guys in AA shouldn't be up to start their clock". I was reading some of the resistance as the second.....if all the resistance is the first, that makes more sense in a potential WS year......but that's not how some of the posts read to me.

 

But let's be honest about Cave, even is he hits, he's a pretty mediocre (at best) fielder for some reason. I thought Cave was a fine 4th OFer last year, but something isn't working this year.

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It's weird that other teams bring up young phenoms.... Why can't Minnesota do that with the OF? I'm pretty sure their current 2B is about their age. This is a world series type year. Not a year to sit back and be conservative, Imo.

 

Team context makes these decisions for you and it isn't hard to predict. 

 

The Twins didn't have to call up Cave to fill Buxton's spot. If Arraez can play OF (and he can), the team has the option of calling up Nick Gordon to fill Buxton's spot. And of course, Marwin can play OF so again... Gordon could have been the choice when Buxton went down with an injury with Marwin playing more OF. 

 

It doesn't have to be OF replacing an OF under our current team context and I'm pretty sure it's not. 

 

I'm quite certain that they determined Cave to be the best option to take Buxton's roster spot based on how Cave was performing in Rochester and based on how Cave performed last year. I think it's possible that the front office believes in Cave more than some of the Twinsdaily crowd. 

 

 

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Team context makes these decisions for you and it isn't hard to predict. 

 

The Twins didn't have to call up Cave to fill Buxton's spot. If Arraez can play OF (and he can), the team has the option of calling up Nick Gordon to fill Buxton's spot. And of course, Marwin can play OF so again... Gordon could have been the choice when Buxton went down with an injury with Marwin playing more OF. 

 

It doesn't have to be OF replacing an OF under our current team context and I'm pretty sure it's not. 

 

I'm quite certain that they determined Cave to be the best option to take Buxton's roster spot based on how Cave was performing in Rochester and based on how Cave performed last year. I think it's possible that the front office believes in Cave more than some of the Twinsdaily crowd. 

 

I don't understand your post. Because it reads like you are saying the Twins' know best (which they most certainly do most of the time), and we should not discuss doing things differently......Of course they think Cave is the right player right now, or else someone else would be up. 

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With this team hitting as they are, I wouldn't bother with someone like Cave for even a second. Bring up a good defender until Buxton and/or Astudillo come back. Cave is neither a good defender nor a good hitter.

 

Now I will say that Cave is "good enough" to be the emergency fill in guy, particularly if he gets along well with everybody, it's just not the choice I would make. With a dozen guys on the team who can hit, just bring in a good defender who isn't going to be a liability out there.

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I don't understand your post. Because it reads like you are saying the Twins' know best (which they most certainly do most of the time), and we should not discuss doing things differently......Of course they think Cave is the right player right now, or else someone else would be up.

I should have continued on.

 

The entire 40 man are options under current team context. The club has to be fairly certain that Larnach or Kiriloff will indeed out perform the current 40 man options before they start adding players to the 40 man and therefore burning options/starting service time when they don’t need to. Astudillo could come back... I don’t know when but he could be back soon and now Larnach is places on the 40 man for a 2 week stint before heading back to the minors.

 

Before you Acuna, Tatis or Vladimir Jr a Larnach you have to be certain that they will be Acuns, Tatis or Vlad Jr like.

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I would think Cave is on the roster until they need a 13th pitcher. I don’t think they are sending down Arraez. Who else would they send out or DFA?

 

I don’t want to add a guy to the 40 when they are two short starts or extra inning games away from needing another pitcher.

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This wasn't really an article worth writing. Cave isn't a very good major league baseball player, I don't care what he did last year. He isn't very good. His defense has been atrocious in the outfield, and if you aren't hitting, you need to at least provide something in the way of defense. He has done and is doing neither.

 

At this point, the Twins need to roll with Rosario/Kepler/Gonzalez in the outfield, Sano at 3rd base, and Cron at 1st base. Sprinkle in Sano at 1st every now and then, but other than that, Cave should not be seeing the field on a regular basis.

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Of course, Kubel had just hit for a 1.119 OPS at AA, then .958 at AAA before his call-up.

Larnach has a .773 so far at AA.

Point taken and thank you Spycake.

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Great outfielders don't get constantly injured trying to make plays. They make the plays and keep on playing

 

Collisions are not what makes him a great fielder. His speed makes him a great fielder.

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Kirilloff and Larnach are on track to make it to the majors next season, but so far neither has even 300 AB about A ball so the chances of them playing with the Twins this season is extremely small. The guy that I think will make an appearance is Rooker. If Cave doesn't show much in the next couple of weeks he could well fall behind Rooker (when he gets back from the IL). 

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