LaBombo Verified Member Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 Good luck to Vargas. I just don't see him getting 500+ PAs in the MLB. To me it's made sense for over a year that he makes his way to Korea or Japan. He could be a folk hero there hitting 40+ HRs and try his luck again in a year or 3. That was my thought as well. Some guys go there as aging veteran to milk a little more money and/or fun out of the sport, but guys Vargas' age get money, AB's, and a chance to be (re)discovered.
RaymondLuxuryYacht Provisional Member Posted March 17, 2018 Posted March 17, 2018 no one old enough to think we could field a team on the Flintstones?
operation mindcrime Verified Member Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 DFA used to be 10 days, now it is just 7 days. We could also waive him, which I think would have to be done within 4 days (as waivers takes 3 days). If he went unclaimed, we could outright him off the 40-man roster to the minors.Thanks! \m/
Doctor Wu Verified Member Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 So, SOOOO disappointed it turned out to be Jake Cave instead of Nick. Couldn't they at least have gotten one of the current or former Bad Seeds, I'm thinking maybe Toby Dammit or Kid Congo Powers for a low A prospect?While we are rocking the beat, I noticed that the Yankees had a J. Hendrix in the lineup today! ashbury 1
ashbury Verified Member Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 no one old enough to think we could field a team on the Flintstones?None of our guys can hold a candle to Mickey Marble. Richie the Rally Goat 1
Richie the Rally Goat Community Moderator Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 no one old enough to think we could field a team on the Flintstones?yabba dabba don’t go there Squirrel and ashbury 2
Elliot Verified Member Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 This is an expansion of an earlier comment I had made in a different string, but it applies here as the move has now been made on Vargas. I pointed out that international players face a disadvantage with early signings, and eventual early decisions regarding the 40 man. Early inclusion on the 40 man roster makes them eligible for early call ups; often from high A or early in AA. Although the player is probably thrilled, I wonder about the impact of that type of development plan. As pointed out by a few, Vargas did have significant MLB at bats as well as a number at AAA. However; averaging 200 AB's per year over 4 years is not the same as getting 500 to 600 in a year. Same issue with his AAA time. This was a similar issue with position players Danny Santana and Jorge Polanco, as well as pitchers Randy Rosario and Felix Jorge. Early, surprise promotions to MLB that seem to interrupt minor league development. The next will likely be Lewin Diaz. After his first year at low A the team needed to make a 40 man decision. Although left off and eligible for the rule 5 last year, the outcome will probably not be the same if he is left unprotected again after his second year at low A or a promotion to high A. Sano was more of an exception, as I expect Javier will be; an international player that is allowed to develop through a normal system progression. Richie the Rally Goat 1
Mr. Brooks Verified Member Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 This is an expansion of an earlier comment I had made in a different string, but it applies here as the move has now been made on Vargas. I pointed out that international players face a disadvantage with early signings, and eventual early decisions regarding the 40 man. Early inclusion on the 40 man roster makes them eligible for early call ups; often from high A or early in AA. Although the player is probably thrilled, I wonder about the impact of that type of development plan. As pointed out by a few, Vargas did have significant MLB at bats as well as a number at AAA. However; averaging 200 AB's per year over 4 years is not the same as getting 500 to 600 in a year. Same issue with his AAA time. This was a similar issue with position players Danny Santana and Jorge Polanco, as well as pitchers Randy Rosario and Felix Jorge. Early, surprise promotions to MLB that seem to interrupt minor league development. The next will likely be Lewin Diaz. After his first year at low A the team needed to make a 40 man decision. Although left off and eligible for the rule 5 last year, the outcome will probably not be the same if he is left unprotected again after his second year at low A or a promotion to high A. Sano was more of an exception, as I expect Javier will be; an international player that is allowed to develop through a normal system progression.Vargas is from Puerto Rico. He was signed as an undrafted 18 year old. ashbury 1
Doomtints Verified Member Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 The Twins liked Vargas enough to have him initially skip AAA. Then they decided they weren't sure if they wanted him or if they didn't. I think we've all dated people like this before. Good luck to you Vargas, you'll find better. The Twins finally made a decision. TheLeviathan and Richie the Rally Goat 2
howieramone2 Verified Member Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 I hope someone gives Vargas 500 ABs this year.I'm guessing the Bad News Bears.
howieramone2 Verified Member Posted March 18, 2018 Posted March 18, 2018 I know the 13 man staff causes bench problems, but overall I am still sorry to see Vargas go. Hope he ends up somewhere where he gets a good amount of AB's without being yo yo'ed up and down. No idea how successful he will be, but here was the wrong place at the wrong time.It's not like he was trying to make the '27 Yankees.
Respy Provisional Member Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 Vargas has been claimed by the Reds. Unfortunately that will mean he's a bench bat (Joey Votto). https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2018/03/reds-claim-kennys-vargas.html
Doomtints Verified Member Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 The Twins liked Vargas enough to have him initially skip AAA. Then they decided they weren't sure if they wanted him or if they didn't. I think we've all dated people like this before. Good luck to you Vargas, you'll find better. The Twins finally made a decision. :/
ashbury Verified Member Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 The Twins liked Vargas enough to have him initially skip AAA. Then they decided they weren't sure if they wanted him or if they didn't. I think we've all dated people like this before. Good luck to you Vargas, you'll find better. The Twins finally made a decision.:/Their decision likely remains unchanged: they still want him in Rochester, just not Louisville.
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