Article: The First Half Of The Twins Core Four

[jimmer]

It's not so much about dumping Rosario for Granite as being ok with Granite getting a chance at the job. Rosario has more pop in his bat, but hasn't shown any consistent ability to control the strike zone so until this recent run has not been able to put up the OBP that you need in a MLB hitter. Granite has shown the ability to hit for average and does control the strike zone in the minors, and his defense is superior. Let the battle begin: whomever can perform more consistently towards the peak of their ability gets the starting job!

or we could search for a legimate MLB starting caliber corner OF instead of picking between two guys who are pretty much 4th OF talent.

[dbminn]

 

Agree in a perfect world but our biggest trade chips are MLB or close to MLB ready players if we're going to trade for starting pitching. We're going to have to be ok with trading Polanco or Gordon and one of the OF if talks are even gonna start

 

Agreed. I was responding more to the idea that Rosario can be traded because he is blocking Granite. 

 

I'd be ok with moving Polanco or Gordon and other prospects if the Twins go after a Sonny Gray-type. Gotta give up something to get a talented SP. Esco can handle SS if Polanco is traded. But if the Twins trade Rosario mid-season they would be left with a rookie LF and no depth to cover injuries.

 

If they have to add Rosario to get a deal done, so be it. But there is a good chance it would be a step back for the rest of this season. I'd rather give up Polanco/MiLB prospects or wait until the end of the season to make a big trade for a SP. The Twins will have a better idea about Granite after a few months in the majors.

[Mike Sixel]

 

Agreed. I was responding more to the idea that Rosario can be traded because he is blocking Granite. 

 

I'd be ok with moving Polanco or Gordon and other prospects if the Twins go after a Sonny Gray-type. Gotta give up something to get a talented SP. Esco can handle SS if Polanco is traded. But if the Twins trade Rosario mid-season they would be left with a rookie LF and no depth to cover injuries.

 

If they have to add Rosario to get a deal done, so be it. But there is a good chance it would be a step back for the rest of this season. I'd rather give up Polanco/MiLB prospects or wait until the end of the season to make a big trade for a SP. The Twins will have a better idea about Granite after a few months in the majors.

 

You think Granite is up to stay?

 

i'd guess he was promoted very temporarily, and when they need a 5th starter, he's gone again. The Twins, imo, were wise to send down a SP that just pitched, and call up someone that could help right before and right after the ASB, but I expect it to be a short lived promotion, no matter how he plays.

[dbminn]

 

You think Granite is up to stay?

 

i'd guess he was promoted very temporarily, and when they need a 5th starter, he's gone again. The Twins, imo, were wise to send down a SP that just pitched, and call up someone that could help right before and right after the ASB, but I expect it to be a short lived promotion, no matter how he plays.

 

I agree with you Mike. I think Granite will spend more time in the minors. IMHO, the only way he stays all year is because of injury or trade. I just didn't want to stir the pot too much.

 

 

Edited July 12, 2017 by dbminn

[old nurse]

 

I suspect that Molitor is part of the reason here.   Looking at teams attempts/opportunity will not get you anywhere, because the Twins have at least a few non threats (Mauer, Vargas, Sano etc.)    Interestingly enough, the Twins are tied for 9th in SB in the majors FWIW

If the Twins ae 9th in the league in base stealing with such noted speedsters as Castro, Escobar, Gimmenez, Grossman,  Mauer, Sano and Vargas  in the lineup I would hardly think Mauer is the blame. from pregame blurbs on the radio, Mauer is well aware of his player's chances for stealing.

[old nurse]

 

Why is everyone in such a hurry to dump Rosario  for Granite? I don't get it. We don't have a clue if Granite can hit at the MLB level yet.

This is now the third year of Rosario being up in the majors.  The shiny newness has worn off. Good but not not great, he becomes expendable in people's eyes. That changes when the 28 year old figures things out and becomes a monster.