Expansion Draft

[TheLeviathan]

 

As I stated earlier, it may not be quite the forgone conclusion that vegas wouldn't take Pommer if available. Vegas will no doubt want some veteran leadership. He can still score, if only in bunches. And Vegas will actually need some cap impact to be compliant.

Not saying it would be likely, but who knows?

 

Right, plus you attach a pick to that and they might take him.

 

I don't know how the "waiving" process even would work for an NHL contract.

[DaveW]

As I stated earlier, it may not be quite the forgone conclusion that vegas wouldn't take Pommer if available. Vegas will no doubt want some veteran leadership. He can still score, if only in bunches. And Vegas will actually need some cap impact to be compliant.

 

Not saying it would be likely, but who knows?

There will be plenty of over priced "goal scorers" avail to LV during the draft. Young, good defenseman will be very few and far between. I think at the very least 2 of Scandella, Brodin and Dumba will almost certainly have to be exposed, LV would be insane to take Pominville over any one of those three IMO.

[DaveW]

Right, plus you attach a pick to that and they might take him.

 

I don't know how the "waiving" process even would work for an NHL contract.

If it's a 3rd or later...ok. But the Wild really need to keep their 1st and 2nd round picks moving fwd for a bit. Otherwise things could we ugly in the system in a few years.

[Mr. Brooks]

Well I doubt Pommenville is going to just waive his NTC out of the kindness of his heart.

This is a business, we'd likely have to tack on a couple more guaranteed years.

No thanks.

[DaveW]

 

Well I doubt Pommenville is going to just waive his NTC out of the kindness of his heart.
This is a business, we'd likely have to tack on a couple more guaranteed years.
No thanks.

I think they could make the argument as followed:
 

1. "we talked to LV, we know they are gonna take one of the D men"

2. By you waiving your NTC, we keep the team even stronger, thus giving us a better chance at a cup title.

Again, if you have a choice between Scandella, one of Dumba/Brodin, Haula and Pominville, you would be insane to take Pominville from that group. He's not a bad player, but he doesn't have near the upside of the other 3.

[SweetOne69]

Since the goal is to free up a slot so they can protect another Forward, instead of asking Pominville to waive his NTC, they could ask Parise to waive his.

 

There is no way that Parise would be taken due to the length of his contract.

[TheLeviathan]

 

Since the goal is to free up a slot so they can protect another Forward, instead of asking Pominville to waive his NTC, they could ask Parise to waive his.

 

There is no way that Parise would be taken due to the length of his contract.

 

This is also something to try.  And with his contract price, length, and a down year in production it may be ideal.

[Pardon My Dinger]

We finally got praise to stop acting like a spoiled brat. Not into that idea.

[Mr. Brooks]

I think they could make the argument as followed:

 

1. "we talked to LV, we know they are gonna take one of the D men"

2. By you waiving your NTC, we keep the team even stronger, thus giving us a better chance at a cup title.

Again, if you have a choice between Scandella, one of Dumba/Brodin, Haula and Pominville, you would be insane to take Pominville from that group. He's not a bad player, but he doesn't have near the upside of the other 3.

Of course Pommenville won't be taken, that's not my point.

This is a business, not a hobby for these guys. It's not Pommenville's job to make the roster stronger.

The Wild want something from him, he will want something in return. That is business.

[Pardon My Dinger]

Well, there you go, then...

 

JoBro and Zucker: both protected. Dumba, likely as good as gone, unless they go for Staal or Olofsson, I suppose. 

[Vanimal46]

I endorse protecting Zucker. He turned a corner this season and looking forward to seeing if he can take the next step. 

 

Sucks that one of the D-men were not going to be protected. I still would have preferred Dumba over Brodin. Hope Dumba does well in LV. 

[nicksaviking]

Man, does anyone remember when expansion drafts for all teams ensured the new team had to take the time and effort to develop the organization from the ground up? The NHL must really, really want their new Vegas team to do well right away. This process is slanted in their favor so much more so than when the Wild and the rest of the new teams joined the league When the Rockies, Marlins, Rays and DBacks joined MLB and when the Bobcats, Raptors and Grizzlies joined the NBA, they were picking from the scrap heap.

 

Hell, the new Cleveland Browns STILL haven't found their footing.

 

But the owners had to agree to this expansion format, which almost makes it seem to me that they are more concerned with the new team making bank and contributing to the NHL as an asset than they are with putting the best team on the ice for their own franchise.

[Pardon My Dinger]

They should be able to put together a pretty decent team right away. They could get some good veterans (Marc Methot, MA Fleury, James Neal), some solid young defenders (Dumba, Oleksiak, Sbisa), and Brock Nelson to provide some firepower. Probably not a contender, but not a pushover either. Interesting. 

[Monkeypaws]

My plan would not be losing Matt Dumba - unique skill-set among Wild defenders, can play tough and hit, growing offensive prowess, great skater. Yeah, he has his brain farts on occasion, but so did all Wild d-men I watched last season. So did another former Wild draftee likely to win the Norris this year, Brent Burns.

 

Like Brodin, but Dumba's ceiling is off the charts.

 

Fletcher is starting to circle the bowl for me. To aggresive at the trade deadline always, not keeping the picks that would be gold at this point. He's very lucky his scouts drafted well with little the last few seasons.

[Pardon My Dinger]

Here's my bold prediction (otherwise known as a hawt taek):

 

McPhee chooses olofsson over dumba.

[twinsnorth49]

My plan would not be losing Matt Dumba - unique skill-set among Wild defenders, can play tough and hit, growing offensive prowess, great skater. Yeah, he has his brain farts on occasion, but so did all Wild d-men I watched last season. So did another former Wild draftee likely to win the Norris this year, Brent Burns.

 

Like Brodin, but Dumba's ceiling is off the charts.

 

Fletcher is starting to circle the bowl for me. To aggresive at the trade deadline always, not keeping the picks that would be gold at this point. He's very lucky his scouts drafted well with little the last few seasons.

This, leaving Dumba exposed was inexplicably stupid. Fletcher is a moron with a capital M.

 

Vegas would be insane not to take him.

[Mr. Brooks]

Yep, I predict that Fletcher will regret letting Dumba go for nothing.

Big mistake, IMO.

[Mr. Brooks]

Here's my bold prediction (otherwise known as a hawt taek):

 

McPhee chooses olofsson over dumba.

What is the rationale behind this?

Dumba is better now, has more potential, and costs more (Vegas needs to get to the floor).

And they are both 22 years old.

[Pardon My Dinger]

 

What is the rationale behind this?
Dumba is better now, has more potential, and costs more (Vegas needs to get to the floor).
And they are both 22 years old.

Are you unfamiliar with how hot takes work?

[Vanimal46]

These are the jerseys Matt Dumba will get to wear next season. Not terrible!

 

[Pardon My Dinger]

These are the jerseys Matt Dumba will get to wear next season. Not terrible!

 

1. It appears that Fletch worked something out and Vegas is taking Haula.

2. Upon closer inspection, those gold stripes are actually glittery/sparkly...and the primary logo still looks like a condom to me.

[Pardon My Dinger]

What's more, Russo says one of Tuch, Greenway, or Kaprizov is going with him. I'da just let Dumba go, personally, but I jumped ship a while ago now, so go Kings.

[Pardon My Dinger]

Here's my predicted roster:

 

 

1. We know now that Vegas is taking Haula + instead of Dumba. 

2. Some of these teams...sheesh. Really hard to pick someone you'd want from Arizona's list, or Toronto's. 

3. The Ducks are going to do something to protect one of Manson or Vatanen. I think they'll go Vatanen, so Vegas would have to take Manson. 

4. Fleury's going. He's ready to not play all playoffs long, then hand it over to Murray in the SCF. 

5. McPhee shouldn't take any deal that would prohibit him from taking Nelson. I don't think he will. 

6. This team is going to be decent. Most of these names won't be in Vegas come October, but, I think Vegas will project better on paper than at least a few teams. 

[Vanimal46]

Haula, Tuch, and a 1st round pick is the rumor I'm hearing.... Las Vegas can take 1st round picks? This is all so confusing. 

[rghrbek]

 

Haula, Tuch, and a 1st round pick is the rumor I'm hearing.... Las Vegas can take 1st round picks? This is all so confusing. 

Boy if that is the case that is way, way too much of an over pay to protect Dumba....my goodness.  Personally I feel Haula alone had same value (if you can do that with a center vs. defenseman), then throw in high prospect Tuch...ouch.  Then a #1?  Dumba is a sometimes dynamic young defensemen, who at times is an absolutely a liability.

 

Russo very confident Wild will trade one of the defenseman (probably Brodin) very soon after expansion draft...

 

I guess we will see

[Vanimal46]

My buddy who texted me that rumor may be wrong about the pick being involved. He's way more into it than myself so I took his word for it. 

[rghrbek]

 

My buddy who texted me that rumor may be wrong about the pick being involved. He's way more into it than myself so I took his word for it. 

We will see, as I have been following Russo...who is by far the best beat writer in town, and the most accurate and plugged in...

[Twins33]

Russo corrected to saying Haula plus Tuch and the Wild get a conditional pick in return.

 

[Vanimal46]

The dust has settled. Vegas takes Haula. Tuch is also heading there. The Wild receives Vegas' 3rd round pick in exchange for Tuch.

[Pardon My Dinger]

14 out of 30 ain't bad...