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Well, when  your LFer and CFer have sub 60 OPS+, you probably have to do something.  Obviously, Murphy is a stop gap but might be able to hit better than that for a month or so.  

 

Might

 

.194 Right Now in Rochester so it's also possible that he won't. 

 

I'm not going to like Murphy getting a 40 man spot and I'm not very happy about the other Murphy getting one either. 

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I'm perfectly OK with Milone starting tonight and Meyer breathing down his neck. 

 

 

BTW... Rochester's bullpen... At least the ones on the 40 man... pretty spent as well. 

 

Gotta go Chargois if you need a fresh arm in the dugout for tonight. 

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Might

 

.194 Right Now in Rochester so it's also possible that he won't. 

 

I'm not going to like Murphy getting a 40 man spot and I'm not very happy about the other Murphy getting one either. 

Sure, he's hitting like crap and I don't expect much from him.  But if he, as Mike suggests, sits on the bench and lets the Twins go with Arcia/Rosario/Sano while Buxton and Kepler get needed at bats in AAA, he's fine.  (Or they could let him leave and let Danny Santana hang onto that role).

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You mean, like Berrios is promoted within the week?  I could get behind that, but otherwise I see no reason to mess with Meyer right now just because we're trying to salvage something from Tommy Milone as a rotation fixture.

 

I agree.  I just think they are going to let Meyer finish the game tonight whenever he comes in.  A quasi start that is likely to begin about the 5th inning.

 

I know I am probably setting myself up to be dissapointed

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I agree.  I just think they are going to let Meyer finish the game tonight whenever he comes in.  A quasi start that is likely to begin about the 5th inning.

 

I know I am probably setting myself up to be dissapointed

Nah, Milone is throwing a perfect game tonight to keep his rotation spot.

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Arguably 2 of the best 5 starting arms in the System are now in the Twins bullpen. One is in the Rochester rotation.  

 

Once again, TR and company prove that they have no idea how to maximize the value of young arms. Using all their bullets in AAA and in the pen isn't going to help this team win now or in the future. 

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If they keep Milone to only twice through the lineup then Meyer should be able to piggyback and get a couple innings while having a bailout if needed. Not a terrible way to get his feet wet.

 

Doing something like that requires too much thought for this FO. 

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I really don't like the position the fans are being put in with this move. No one wants to cheer against Milone and/or the team, yet now that's clearly going to happen even if subconsciously. Just rip the freakin' band-aid off, don't use these prospects as scare tactic motivation for the incumbents, that's not fair for either of the players. So now Meyer is on the 25-man playing with a bunch of guys who know he is only there to take someone's job and Milone is there knowing his job is on the line and everyone else knows that if Milone comes through, they may be next on the chopping block.

 

Just make the move. I'd rather have angry players than fearful players, particularly if we're talking about pitchers.

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IMO, there is no rationale--none, zilch, zippo, nada, zero--that justifies Murphy being in Minnesota short of about 4 additional injuries.  

 

That's a move a contending team makes in July to try to squeeze a bit more production from a corner OF spot, not a move a 5-14 team playing a young OF makes.

 

Letting Milone start tonight, with Meyer available to pitch multiple innings in relief, makes some sense to me.  There is next to no bullpen tonight, if you start Meyer and he implodes in the second inning, you've got big problems.

 

 

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Sure, he's hitting like crap and I don't expect much from him.  But if he, as Mike suggests, sits on the bench and lets the Twins go with Arcia/Rosario/Sano while Buxton and Kepler get needed at bats in AAA, he's fine.  (Or they could let him leave and let Danny Santana hang onto that role).

 

I understand that

 

I'm just not doing it. 

 

Send Buxton down and let's give Kepler a spin. 

 

If the Twins say that Kepler is too unproven... I'll drive to 1 Twins Way... and Say Yes you are right... He is too unproven but that never stopped you with Hicks, Hicks, Schaefer and now Buxton don't start pulling this crap on me now". 

 

Then I drop nets on them from the ceiling and I call the proper authorities. 

 

If the Twins call up Murphy. They would have to think long and hard to come up with a move more worthless and time wasting that beats it in the future. 

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Have you check how Murphy has been hitting AAA pitching lately?

 

Are you implying results don't matter when it comes to the Twins and their veterans? 

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Let's give him mixed messages like they did with May?  That's been proven to work well. :cry:

I believe May started from the get go and was put in the pen by the Molitor.  Not really the same thing.  

 

(And Molitor might not be a big fan of Meyer starting - I read somewhere that he voted against letting him start and wants him to be a bullpen arm.  Ryan and others wanted Meyer to start).  

 

In any event, I don't think pitchers are too confused by "mixed messages".  Meyer needs to get guys out at the ML level and not walk every other batter. If he can do that, he'll be in good shape.

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Meyer up; Santana activated from DL.

 

Kepler and Buxton to AAA.

Well, that's expected.  That means the starting OF for now will be Arcia/Rosario/Sano.  Danny Santana is the 4th OFer.  Hopefully, Kepler and Buxton can force the issue in a few weeks but they needed consistent at-bats and they weren't getting them.

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I really don't like the position the fans are being put in with this move. No one wants to cheer against Milone and/or the team, yet now that's clearly going to happen even if subconsciously. Just rip the freakin' band-aid off, don't use these prospects as scare tactic motivation for the incumbents, that's not fair for either of the players. So now Meyer is on the 25-man playing with a bunch of guys who know he is only there to take someone's job and Milone is there knowing his job is on the line and everyone else knows that if Milone comes through, they may be next on the chopping block.

 

Just make the move. I'd rather have angry players than fearful players, particularly if we're talking about pitchers.

I agree, but weren't most Twins fans, myself included, cheering for Nolasco to fail miserably so Berrios would be up quicker?? Sometimes for the betterment of the team you need players to fail so superior talent that's being held down by a cheap organization are forced to emerge.  

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As much as I don't believe in DanSan......I'd rather he was the 4th OF. How many OF do they need, if they have Esco/Nunez/DanSan? 

 

The answer is "all of them"***

 

*** except Murphy

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Kepler never should have been up here, if they weren't going to use him, imo. Just not a fan of this "plan" at all.

Throw Polanco in that statement as well. 

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Well, that's expected.  That means the starting OF for now will be Arcia/Rosario/Sano.  Danny Santana is the 4th OFer.  Hopefully, Kepler and Buxton can force the issue in a few weeks but they needed consistent at-bats and they weren't getting them.

 

I am not seeing this. Did it happen or was this a prediction

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Kepler never should have been up here, if they weren't going to use him, imo. Just not a fan of this "plan" at all.

Well, the reason Kepler was up here in the first place was b/c the Twins didn't have any other old vet on the 40 man roster.  That's why they seemed to get Murphy.  

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Well, the reason Kepler was up here in the first place was b/c the Twins didn't have any other old vet on the 40 man roster.  That's why they seemed to get Murphy.  

 

Except Murphy is not an OF........he's an old former corner OF. But, I get your point. I don't agree with the plans at all right now, this is all because they didn't have a plan for what to do if they won Park....none of this is an issue if Sano is at 3B or DH.

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I believe May started from the get go and was put in the pen by the Molitor.  Not really the same thing.  

 

(And Molitor might not be a big fan of Meyer starting - I read somewhere that he voted against letting him start and wants him to be a bullpen arm.  Ryan and others wanted Meyer to start).  

 

In any event, I don't think pitchers are too confused by "mixed messages".  Meyer needs to get guys out at the ML level and not walk every other batter. If he can do that, he'll be in good shape.

 

I couldn't disagree with you more. Just look at the comments that May and Meyer have made recently.

 

And yes, they have been yanking May's chain since late last June on exactly what his role is with this team.

 

And I'm sorry, but if the M & M boys aren't on the short list as future long-term starters on this team, and agreed upon by everyone in the braintrust, then:

 

"what we have here is a failure to communicate."

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