Fargo Season 2

[Vanimal46]

Not surprising for us FARGO fans, but the show was renewed for a 3rd season today 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2015/11/23/fargo-renewed-third-season-fx/76267476/

I have no doubt that they will strike gold again. 

[DaveW]

That was pretty much a perfect hour of television.

 

Could season 2 of Fargo be the greatest single season in television history? It's certainly up there with season 3 of the wire and season 4 of breaking bad.

[DaveW]

Also huge fan of the multiple big lebowski references and Miller crossing reference.

 

RIP undertaker, we hardly knew thee.

[Vanimal46]

 

That was pretty much a perfect hour of television.

Could season 2 of Fargo be the greatest single season in television history? It's certainly up there with season 3 of the wire and season 4 of breaking bad.

 

I think you can make that case. I'm just thrilled that the show didn't take a nose dive in season 2 like True Detective.. 

Speaking of Breaking Bad, it felt like Ed made a transformation last night similar to that show. Up until last night it seemed like a guy caught up in circumstances and letting it snowball out of his control. Now all of a sudden he's finding Milligan's phone number and toying with him? Sounds like he finally realized there's only one way out of this mess. 

[TheLeviathan]

I thought it was a good episode, but not as good as recent weeks.  Overall the show is still fantastic.  It may have the best pacing and dialogue in all of television.  

 

It's not phony or trumped up like even True Detective Season 1.  This is just a damn good story told with damn good dialogue and given to us by some damn fine actors and actresses.

[stringer bell]

I just caught up yesterday and wow! You just don't know what will happen next. Great cast, great dialogue, memorable characters.

[USAFChief]

I thought it was a good episode, but not as good as recent weeks.  Overall the show is still fantastic.  It may have the best pacing and dialogue in all of television.  

 

It's not phony or trumped up like even True Detective Season 1.  This is just a damn good story told with damn good dialogue and given to us by some damn fine actors and actresses.

Quality on par with anything done in the movies, on pretty much every level. And sustained over a longer time frame than a movie.

 

Rare for TV.

[Vanimal46]

It's the best night of the week! I don't think Ed and Peggy are that smart to outrun Hanzee.... Also we never found out what happened to Dodd after being electrocuted in the Blumquist's basement. 

[Vanimal46]

Well, last night's episode certainly answered a lot of questions... Peggy has completely lost it. Most of the scenes in the cabin made me laugh out loud. "Hon, you've got to stop stabbin' him."

[TheLeviathan]

Last night was good, a shifted focus but good.

[DaveW]

Well, last night's episode certainly answered a lot of questions... Peggy has completely lost it. Most of the scenes in the cabin made me laugh out loud. "Hon, you've got to stop stabbin' him."

I would argue that Peggy never "had it", just took at her hoarding magazines etc in her house.

 

Amazing hour of Tv yet again, Dunst probably should earn an Emmy for that work, hell, everyone in the episode was amazing.

 

Glad they invested some time into hanzee as well, he is a bad bad man, but part of me felt like his murder of the barkeep was sort of "justified" also the wounded knee crack followed by shooting those drunks in the knee cap was some classic dark humor that only this show can pull off. After shooting Dodd (for being a dick) you sorta feel for the guy who just "wants a change" that is just great writing and great story telling IMO.

 

I would love a spin off series some day of Hanzee and Mike Milligan going around the country as mecrcanies for hire, but alas, I don't think either makes it out alive.

 

Also loved the nods to FARGO the movie and No Country for Old men with the scene at the gas station, that was intense!

[DaveW]

Last night was good, a shifted focus but good.

Yeah, I think it was good timing though, last weeks episode was bloody as hell and next weeks looks to be the bloodbath they have been talking about in Sioux Falls since season one.

 

I wonder if Milligan and Hanzee somehow find a brief but strong common ground at some point. Both are arguably the most valuable "killers" for their sides, but both have been talked down/looked down to time and time again because they aren't white. Obviously this shows feelings at the time, but diving into both of these back stories this much makes me wonder....

 

Hanzee+Milligan+kitchen brother vs cops vs Gerhardts vs KC mafia could make for an awesome last two episodes.

[Vanimal46]

Yeah, I think it was good timing though, last weeks episode was bloody as hell and next weeks looks to be the bloodbath they have been talking about in Sioux Falls since season one.

 

I wonder if Milligan and Hanzee somehow find a brief but strong common ground at some point. Both are arguably the most valuable "killers" for their sides, but both have been talked down/looked down to time and time again because they aren't white. Obviously this shows feelings at the time, but diving into both of these back stories this much makes me wonder....

 

Hanzee+Milligan+kitchen brother vs cops vs Gerhardts vs KC mafia could make for an awesome last two episodes.

I would love to see a Hanzee+Milligan+Kitchen brother team for the massacre in Sioux Falls. They would create havoc together.

 

I think there's one more opportunity for Hanzee to return to the Gerhardt's... Bear at least showed gratitude to Hanzee for his loyalty to the family since he was 10. Bear's probably thrilled Dodd is dead so Floyd can take her rightful place as the family leader.

[DaveW]

I dunno, didn't they say that the Gerhardts (took him in) when he was a kid? Perhaps they were responsible for his parent(s) death? If that's the case I could see him deciding now is the ultimate time to go out on his own, but could see him returning to the family as well.

 

Can't wait til Monday!

[TheLeviathan]

Hanzee killing Dodd would do nothing but make Bear appreciate him more IMO.

[Vanimal46]

Not sure how accurate this source is, but supposedly it was announced that season 3 of Fargo will return to present day 2008, just 2 years after the first season took place. 

Perhaps there will be a return of Molly Solverson and old Lou?

[DaveW]

 

Not sure how accurate this source is, but supposedly it was announced that season 3 of Fargo will return to present day 2008, just 2 years after the first season took place. 

Perhaps there will be a return of Molly Solverson and old Lou?

I hope they don't have Molly and Lou return as central characters, I like the whole new story line/cast etc that is playing out now, maybe have them briefly appear in a cameo or something.

I could also see the entire story taking place in some other city/area completely.

One guy I could see wreaking havoc in season 3 would be Mr. Wrench.

[Vanimal46]

 

I hope they don't have Molly and Lou return as central characters, I like the whole new story line/cast etc that is playing out now, maybe have them briefly appear in a cameo or something.

I could also see the entire story taking place in some other city/area completely.

One guy I could see wreaking havoc in season 3 would be Mr. Wrench.

 

I agree, I think the Solverson angle is played out now that we've seen both Lou and Molly in the primes of their law enforcement career. 

If season 3 does start in 2008, that would be an interesting time... Start of the economic collapse, the start of the oil boom in North Dakota.... Whatever they decide to write about I am on board with. 

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After shooting the "yahoos" from the bar, Hanzee is liberated. He is certainly going to jail for life if not dying, so he can kill or not kill whoever he wants. As for his parentage, Dodd called him a "half-breed" more than once, is it possible that Old Man Gerhardt took advantage of an Native American maiden?

[TheLeviathan]

Honestly, with writing like this - I have confidence they can do any era they want with any characters they want.

 

This season of Fargo has made me basically buy into giving anything Noah Hawley does a more than fair shot going forward.  Even better that the geek in me is psyched that he's writing the X-men spin-off Legion.

 

Already booked to watch that.

[DaveW]

 

I agree, I think the Solverson angle is played out now that we've seen both Lou and Molly in the primes of their law enforcement career. 

If season 3 does start in 2008, that would be an interesting time... Start of the economic collapse, the start of the oil boom in North Dakota.... Whatever they decide to write about I am on board with. 

God I hope there is some Brett Favre to the Vikings talk

[DaveW]

 

 

After shooting the "yahoos" from the bar, Hanzee is liberated. He is certainly going to jail for life if not dying, so he can kill or not kill whoever he wants. As for his parentage, Dodd called him a "half-breed" more than once, is it possible that Old Man Gerheart took advantage of an Indian maiden?

Good catch, that would certainly make a lot of sense to the whole dynamic and why he was finally fed up with Dodd.

 

Him being a war hero is also a really nice touch, between that and his "confession" to Peggy you actually feel for the guy a bit, almost like he isn't some cold blooded killer at heart, but keeps getting pushed into being one.

[Vanimal46]

A very rare swing and a miss tonight. I was very disappointed that the UFO reference played any significant part in the story.

[DaveW]

A very rare swing and a miss tonight. I was very disappointed that the UFO reference played any significant part in the story.

Oh man, I loved the episode! The UFO stuff is still random and a bit unclear but it's not like it dominated much, it more or less just lead to Lou getting the upper hand in a fight.

 

Wow, intense hour of TV.

 

Peggy and Ed slip away again, can't imagine both stay alive after next weeks episode but who knows.

 

Hanzee went full rogue after all. Most shocking of all: we never saw the KC vs Gerhardt show down we were all expecting, by all accounts the Gerhadts are now all dead, no?

 

That's a nice misdirection.

[DaveW]

Also loved that Martin Freeman (Lester) came back to narrate this episode.does hanzee go down as the all time greatest Coens brother villain? I think so.

 

Pretty awesome considering he seemed to be nothing but a side character off the bat.

[DaveW]

And last note, after having the audience feel somewhat sympathtic towards hanzee last week, they showed him killing the innocent shop keep and revealed that he strangled Peggy's innocent boss. That is some good TV writing.

[jimmer]

Was Bear's son killed in one of the episodes and I missed it?

 

That UFO stuff last night was just wacky.  I wish they hadn't done that.  

 

Still one of the best shows to ever be on TV to include series on the movie channels.

[Vanimal46]

Was Bear's son killed in one of the episodes and I missed it?

 

That UFO stuff last night was just wacky. I wish they hadn't done that.

 

Still one of the best shows to ever be on TV to include series on the movie channels.

I believe his son that tried to shoot the butcher is still in jail, and may be the last Gerhardt alive now.

 

I'm with you on the UFO stuff. It's fine to have it behind the scenes (Hank's wall of alien writing and a couple of random characters mentioning UFOs) but for it to play a part in Lou gaining the upper hand in a fight I didn't care for it.

 

Either way I will still be tuning in next week to see the finale!

[jimmer]

 

I believe his son that tried to shoot the butcher is still in jail, and may be the last Gerhardt alive now.

I'm with you on the UFO stuff. It's fine to have it behind the scenes (Hank's wall of alien writing and a couple of random characters mentioning UFOs) but for it to play a part in Lou gaining the upper hand in a fight I didn't care for it.

Either way I will still be tuning in next week to see the finale!

I think they get away with the UFO scene because they said before the whole motel scene happened that it's basically urban legend what went down there.  Remember they kept saying, maybe Hansee said this, or maybe he did that.  No one knows for sure.  Though I'm pretty sure Lou knows :-)

 

What was funny about it was how easily Peg blew it off.  Something like, ' Oh it's just a UFO, let's go, Sam.'  As if a UFO was common place:-)

 

Also, there was a supposed UFO sighting in Minnesota in 1979 by a deputy Sheriff.  So they gave a nod to that.

[DaveW]

In Luverne none the less, which is where the waffle hut shooting was.

 

I have a few more long thoughts on the UFO stuff I will type out later.