JB_Iowa Verified Member Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 i live 20 miles from a grocery store and from Walmart (and 45 from Target). I'm used to planning ahead (or doing without if necessary). I keep a pretty well-stocked pantry, fridge and freezer but there have been times when it has been icy for 2 or 3 weeks, that meals get somewhat creative. Interestingly, I could buy beer at the local convenience store on Sunday although I don't think the bar with package sales is open on Sunday. I understand some of your Minnesota frustration but I don't think I'd even notice it. And, from an historical standpoint, it harkens back to a time when Sundays really were "days of rest".
kab21 Verified Member Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 There is 3.2% beer and wine that can be sold at any time. In South Dakota, beer can be sold any time, but hard liquor/full alcohol wine cannot be sold on Sunday.You missed my point about 3.2%. It's just stupid that beer should be restricted to 3.2% to be sold at certain places or on certain days.
twinsnorth49 Old-Timey Member Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I think Sunday sales were restricted when I lived in Canada, too. And that was an altogether different thing ... I think you bought beer in one place and wine, hard liquors in another. Cant remember now how that worked. I don't drink hardly at all so I hardly purchase so I just don't remember. Canada has some wacky liquor laws but preventing people from buying it on Sunday isn't one of them. Although it's possible that changed after you left, it hasn't always been that way. Considering full service liquor stores here are Crown operated and yours are private, makes it even more baffling that your govt. mandates they close. Very strange.
Mike Sixel Old-Timey Member Posted April 20, 2015 Author Posted April 20, 2015 Except in two of the more Republican cities, where they are socialist and have government owned liquor stores by law (Edina and EP).
SweetOne69 Verified Member Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Considering full service liquor stores here are Crown operated and yours are private, makes it even more baffling that your govt. mandates they close.Very strange. While there are privately owned liquor stores, many are city owned and operated.
Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Indiana is the other state that is this ridiculous (and these are the only two states I have lived in . . . ). It has, now, nothing to do with religious anything. It is all about liquor stores vs. grocery stores. And I still do not understand it at all. How the hell liquor stores have more power than Kroger and others here, I do not know. I imagine the issue is the same in Minnesota. Liquor stores don't think they can compete against heavvy grocery shopping that is done on Sunday.
Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Also, I thought that 3.2 beer was B.S.? As though they really made separate beer for Sunday sales only instead of paying a fine for false labeling. There isn't 3.2 beer.Am I wrong about that?
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Also, I thought that 3.2 beer was B.S.? As though they really made separate beer for Sunday sales only instead of paying a fine for false labeling. There isn't 3.2 beer.Am I wrong about that?Nope, it's real. I first learned about it while living in Utah as a kid. If you want to buy beer more potent than 3.2 in Utah, you need to do it in a state-owned liquor store.
biggentleben Verified Member Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Nope, it's real. I first learned about it while living in Utah as a kid. If you want to buy beer more potent than 3.2 in Utah, you need to do it in a state-owned liquor store. It was the biggest seller in many places that had laws that allowed 18 year-olds to drink 3.2% with regular alcohol reserved for 21+. Those laws were kept by some states (and I thought one or two states still had something on the books) until the mid-80s primarily. There is 3.2% beer around still because of brand loyalty in many of those areas, but the big thing now is 3.2% wine to get around the liquor/wine Sunday bans.
jimmer Verified Member Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Nope, it's real. I first learned about it while living in Utah as a kid. If you want to buy beer more potent than 3.2 in Utah, you need to do it in a state-owned liquor store.Or a military base for those people with those kind of privileges.
mikecgrimes Verified Member Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 I'm against Sunday alcohol sales because of how much the lack of access helped me quite drinking. I get all the arguments for it, but question why nobody on that side seems to have any problem that they can't pick up a 6 pack on the way home from the Twins game at 10:15. It's legal but regulated. I don't know what percent of alcoholics would be unlikely to relapse at a bar or by driving to Wisconsin, but it it's more then 5% then is it really worth it so some rich snob who can't plan can have whine with their dinner? I'm not bothered by the politicians who would vote for Sunday sales, but the one's who find this to be an important issue at the possible expense of actual priorities probably shouldn't be in office.
mikecgrimes Verified Member Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 There is 3.2% beer and wine that can be sold at any time. In South Dakota, beer can be sold any time, but hard liquor/full alcohol wine cannot be sold on Sunday. Can't buy 3.2 beer until noon, and next to nobody knows that.
Shane Wahl Verified Member Posted May 3, 2015 Posted May 3, 2015 http://wineandjurisprudence.org/the-legacy-of-3-2-beer/ I knew there was something off about 3.2 beer.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted May 4, 2015 Posted May 4, 2015 I'm against Sunday alcohol sales because of how much the lack of access helped me quite drinking. I get all the arguments for it, but question why nobody on that side seems to have any problem that they can't pick up a 6 pack on the way home from the Twins game at 10:15. It's legal but regulated. I don't know what percent of alcoholics would be unlikely to relapse at a bar or by driving to Wisconsin, but it it's more then 5% then is it really worth it so some rich snob who can't plan can have whine with their dinner? I'm not bothered by the politicians who would vote for Sunday sales, but the one's who find this to be an important issue at the possible expense of actual priorities probably shouldn't be in office.I understand the battle an alcoholic wages over booze - I've fought a few demons here myself - but the thinking here doesn't hold up. We may as well ban alcohol at that point. And maybe cars because hey, DUIs. A small percentage of the population's bad behavior should not control the majority's reasonable behavior. It's a legal substance that can be purchased by adults. Therefore, adults should be able to buy it when they want to buy it. Most of the rest of the country is way ahead of Minnesota in this regard. There's simply no reason to force business owners to close on a day when a lot of people are off work and want a beer.
Hrbowski Verified Member Posted May 6, 2015 Posted May 6, 2015 I understand the battle an alcoholic wages over booze - I've fought a few demons here myself - but the thinking here doesn't hold up. We may as well ban alcohol at that point. And maybe cars because hey, DUIs. A small percentage of the population's bad behavior should not control the majority's reasonable behavior.This just gave me an idea, why don't we make cars that you have to take a breathalyzer before entering the drivers seat of a vehicle? It might not work, but we could give it a try.
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