MLB Draft Discussion: Day One

[drivlikejehu]

Guess they were lucky to win all those games and develop two MVPs. -sigh- I really don't understand why there's so much negativity. They're in a down cycle, it's normal.

There's no such thing as a "down cycle." Some teams choose to rebuild- the Twins amped up spending and collapsed anyway. That's just making poor decisions and having it catch up to them. No one forced them to make bad decisions.

[twinsfanstreif]

Does the Bard pick remind anyone else of Bashore? I hope he doesn't go the same route.

[J-Dog Dungan]

Are the Twins hoping that Mitch Brown slips to them in the second round, or are we seeing them liking him where they actually might not?

[twinswon1991]

Guess they were lucky to win all those games and develop two MVPs. -sigh- I really don't understand why there's so much negativity. They're in a down cycle, it's normal.

 

You could count the number of good draft picks, good trades and development sucess stories on one hand for this organization. Terry Ryan is skating by on the rep he built 10-20 years ago. Lately Terry, Radcliffe, Billy Smith, Johnson etc have been outclassed by smarter more modern-thinking front office folks. It is a fact that the game has passed these good old boys by. This organization is loyal to a fault and it will doom them for years.

[Bojangles]

Buxton has a chance to be the player we all were told Benson, Hicks, Revere and Span could be.

Span and Revere are exactly what we were told they would be. Span may be even slightly better. Hicks was a raw, toolsy, mid first round pick. He's shown flashes and is still developing (and young.) A reasonable arc for him. Benson was a goddamn second round pick, and still has a good chance to develop into a major leaguer. Or were you expecting Bryce Harper?

 

I look forward to years worth of posts lamenting on how Buxton isn't Ken Griffey Jr. yet. I mean, can the Twins do anything right?

[jwestbrock]

John Manuel ‏@johnmanuelba

Patrick Wisdom is the biggest reach in supp round so far. He hit in the past but serious draft-itis this year.

 

So at least the Twins didn't reach as much as the Cardinals or now the Rangers with Collin Wiles, at least according to Manuel.

[Thrylos]

Are the Twins hoping that Mitch Brown slips to them in the second round, or are we seeing them liking him where they actually might not?

Mitch Brown is a 3rd-4th round pick for most teams. The Twins have overvalued him because of proximity

[Mike Sixel]

thrylos, BA has Mitch Brown number 44 on their list, he's not a 3-4th round pick.

[gunnarthor]

Mitch Brown is a 3rd-4th round pick for most teams. The Twins have overvalued him because of proximity

First, the Twins haven't taken him, so it's a bit early to say the Twins are overvaluing him. The fact that they passed on him twice seems to indicate that. Second, BA had him rated #44 overall, Sickels had him #30 overall. Klaw said he was a solid pick for the Twins but I don't have insider so I don't know where he was ranked. So, in any event, there's nothing out there that supports either your claim that the Twins over value him or that he's a 3rd round pick for most teams.

[Shane Wahl]

Plawecki went higher than even I thought. The Mets are very smart (for a change).

[twinsfanstreif]

mlb.com has him at 51 and Sickles had him at 29 I think. I'm hoping for Brown and Brett-Walker tomorrow......that means it won't happen

[Mike Sixel]

Anyone worried that one of the players put on 25 pounds and saw his FB jump in speed in 1 year?

[righty8383]

Mitch Brown is a 3rd-4th round pick for most teams. The Twins have overvalued him because of proximity

Overvalued at 45 by Keith Law too I guess.

[Mchans24]

Just by seeing video it is obvious the kid the twins took at 32 is much more athletic than Brown. Brown throws hard but it is pretty straight and his breaking ball needs a lot of work. He's also more like 5'10 or 5'11 not 6'2. I like him at pick 62 or 72 for Twins.

[twinsfanstreif]

Guys I like at 63 and 72: Mitch Brown, Kieren Lovegrove, Ty Buttrey, Peter O'Brian, Adam Brett-Walker, RJ Alverez, Wyatt Mathisen, Nolan Fontana, Brett Moonyham, and Nolan Sandburn (I'm assuming that Hunter Virant is unsignable) are just a few names that have jumped out at me. I'm assuming though that it's gonna be some Juco OF that none of us have heard of(and will probably end up being the equivalent of Jason Pridie) I guess I've been a Twins fan too long.....

[PMKI]

I can't believe how negative you guys are on here.

[denarded]

I can't believe how negative you guys are on here.

(nodding head, sadly)

[Gernzy]

I can't believe how negative you guys are on here.

Welcome to the internet. Come here often?

[twinsfanstreif]

It's funny because I was really high on McCullers and Correa and really down on Appel. This morning here in Houston the sports talk guys were having a fit by passing up the "sure thing" in Appel for a 17 year old and they didn't like McCullers because he was gonna be expensive and his dad was just ok. It's interesting the reactions in different places

[Mike Sixel]

All the posters complaining about "negativity", what would you like to do in a discusson about the draft? Only read positive stuff? I'm good with the Buxton pick, has a chance to be great. Wasn't keen at all on the other two picks, not even a little. But I don't get what people want in a discussion about the draft.....if you don't want discussions both pro and con, what do you want?

[PMKI]

I never said to stop the negativity, I was just surprised by how much there was. I like the Buxton pick for sure, I even like the Berrios pick. I am with most people though and question the Bard pick but they obviously saw something in him that they liked.

[Miles]

I have two basic issues with the Berrios and Bard picks:

• I read the front office had them ranked "between #25 and #50" on their board. If they had Berrios ranked lower than #32 or Bard lower than #42, they reached and didn't stay true to their board -- did we really get the best players available, even by our own draft board?
• You don't take Berrios at #32 if you can get him at #42. You don't take Bard at #42 if you can get him at #63. Who really knows how the other MLB clubs ranked these guys? But based on the analysts projections, we could have gotten both using a later pick.

Personally, I'll be fine with all of them if they land Brown at #63. That seems like a value-pick.