Twins fear the Yankees ad the Yankees see the Twins as Patsies.

I think the Yankees have superior teams almost every year so they beat the less talented team almost every year. The solution is to build teams that are better than the Yankees teams. I don't think the Yankees, or their fans, think about the Twins at all. The Twins are rarely good enough for them to think about.

The Yankees dominate a lot of teams. That's what good teams do to bad teams. The Yankees haven't had a losing record since 1992. You're dominating a lot of lesser teams when you have a 30 year streak of being over .500. 

Twins fan in NYC here:  Once I tell real Yankee fans that I’m a Twins fan, they respond by laughing and being fully aware of their dominance.  As for the Yankee players, I agree, they don’t give it much thought.

2 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

I think the Yankees have superior teams almost every year so they beat the less talented team almost every year. The solution is to build teams that are better than the Yankees teams. I don't think the Yankees, or their fans, think about the Twins at all. The Twins are rarely good enough for them to think about.

The Yankees dominate a lot of teams. That's what good teams do to bad teams. The Yankees haven't had a losing record since 1992. You're dominating a lot of lesser teams when you have a 30 year streak of being over .500. 

Agreed on the Yanks having a better club for most of the last 30 years.

Last year the Twins took the Series 4-3. Haven’t heard more than just a brief mention over past series.

The Yanks, after Twins series, headed into the weekend with a 45-19 record ……best in baseball. Not like the Twins were getting beat up by a blah club!

Seems to me the recollection of record over the years is a negative view for a sports team to enter a contest/series in today’s reality. Does it really matter to guys playing in the Minnesota organization in 2024 what the guys that wore the same uniforms in 2008 or 2013 did against the Yankees? Should it matter?

Do the Lions look at their historic record v. the Vikings before the 2 teams play each year? For their sake, I hope not! They can play & be competitive now and that’s all that matters ……,Twins need to get it together so if they do face the Yanks in the Playoffs they are playing at a higher level….that’s really all that matters going forward.

13 hours ago, chpettit19 said:

I think the Yankees have superior teams almost every year so they beat the less talented team almost every year. The solution is to build teams that are better than the Yankees teams. I don't think the Yankees, or their fans, think about the Twins at all. The Twins are rarely good enough for them to think about.

The Yankees dominate a lot of teams. That's what good teams do to bad teams. The Yankees haven't had a losing record since 1992. You're dominating a lot of lesser teams when you have a 30 year streak of being over .500. 

The Minnesota Twins have a record of 44-123 against the Yankees since 2002.

I think this is a pretty astounding record. I don't think NYY is that great. When was the last time they won the WS? Or even gone there? & we have had pretty good teams during that time also. I think the biggest difference between us & them is money. When NYY is bad they can raise their floor to mediocre by spending. When NYY was great in the 60s we would beat them.

Can't you see whenever we play NYY we freeze. IMO it goes beyond just facing a good team. It seems that worse teams than us throughout this period do better than us. Twins have been brought down into submission. How do you explain that? It's all in the organization's & player's mind? IMO w/o Soto NYY is a very beatable team. Soto has had a bad arm, why didn't NYY rest him against the lowly Twins & save him for LAD?

You're maybe right & I'm reading too much into it, to try to make sense in all this.

12 hours ago, Longdistancetwins said:

Twins fan in NYC here:  Once I tell real Yankee fans that I’m a Twins fan, they respond by laughing and being fully aware of their dominance.  As for the Yankee players, I agree, they don’t give it much thought.

Thanks, Longdistance for that reporting out there. Yes, we are rightfully a laughingstock to NYY fans, because of this record. Don't you think that the NYY players don't enter the game understanding the edge they have, that they own the Twins? You don't have to work anything up, the confidence is there   & if you are the NYY organization wouldn't you want to cultivate that dominance over the Twins?

4 hours ago, Doctor Gast said:

The Minnesota Twins have a record of 44-123 against the Yankees since 2002.

I think this is a pretty astounding record. I don't think NYY is that great. When was the last time they won the WS? Or even gone there? & we have had pretty good teams during that time also. I think the biggest difference between us & them is money. When NYY is bad they can raise their floor to mediocre by spending. When NYY was great in the 60s we would beat them.

Can't you see whenever we play NYY we freeze. IMO it goes beyond just facing a good team. It seems that worse teams than us throughout this period do better than us. Twins have been brought down into submission. How do you explain that? It's all in the organization's & player's mind? IMO w/o Soto NYY is a very beatable team. Soto has had a bad arm, why didn't NYY rest him against the lowly Twins & save him for LAD?

You're maybe right & I'm reading too much into it, to try to make sense in all this.

 

That absolutely is an astounding record. It's crazy how bad they've been against the Yankees for a long time. Yes, money is absolutely the biggest difference.

In his time with the Astros Correa had plenty of success against the Yankees. I don't believe he "freezes" against the Yankees. Christian Vazquez has won World Series titles, I don't think he "freezes" because he's now with the Twins and they've been bad against the Yankees in recent history. The Rays have been very good against the Yankees for a while so I'm guessing Manuel Margot isn't intimidated and doesn't "freeze" against them. As @JD-TWINS points out, the guys in 2024 aren't looking back and seeing that the guys in 2008 struggled with the Yankees. The Twins have been a wildly inconsistent team this year. They're 0-14 against the Yankees, Orioles, and Guardians. They've really struggled against teams over .500.

The game before the Twins started their series with the Yankees Juan Soto went 3 for 5 with 2 homeruns to extend his hitting streak to 7 games. In the 10 games before they played the Twins Juan Soto was 14 for 38 with 7 BBs and 4 HRs. That's a .368/.457/.842/1.299 quad slash. I don't know about his arm hurting before the Twins series, but there certainly wasn't anything in his performance just before that series that indicated he was hurting. I'd say that's why they didn't rest him. I don't think the Yankees had any internal meetings about it being the Twins coming to town and them needing to keep them down by having Juan play through an injury for 3 extra days before resting.

I don't think there's any sense to be made. Just like there wasn't sense to be made in the playoff losing streak. Sometimes you just have crazy results in random small samples over multiple decades. It certainly hasn't been any fun to watch, though.

On 6/9/2024 at 3:04 PM, RpR said:

Twins fear the Yankees ad the Yankees see the Twins as Patsies.

dont believe there is any fear whatsoever.. Twins pitchers just live in the middle of the plate too much against good teams.. they just dont have swing and miss stuff...getting batters to chase out of the zone like twins hitter do . 

"Joe Hardy, Mr. Applegate, Lola". Can't you see? Don't you understand? This problem is much bigger than anything that any of you realize. Mr. Applegate (the Devil himself)) wants the Yankees to win, because they are inherently evil. In 1954 Joe Hardy out-smarted Mr. Applegate in the Broadway show; "Damn Yankees", resulting in Joe's team, the lowly Washington Senators, beating the Yankees for the pennant. As a result, the Devil was humiliated on the grand Broadway stage and he remains mad at the Senators/Twins and causes errors by the Senators/Twins, poor hitting by the Senators/Twins and poor pitching by the Senators/Twins as revenge for the Senators' victory 70 years ago in that musical. Until the Twins produce another Joe Hardy, to permanently break this evil spell, there will be tribulations for the "Minnesota Nice" Minnesota Twins whenever they play the "Evil Empire" New York Yankees.  I thought Harmon was the one to do it, then there was Tony and then Joe, but Mr. Applegate prevailed. Now Royce and Walker are next. It is Good vs. Evil. The eternal struggle of mankind.  (Sorry, I got a little carried away...I hate the damn Yankees !)  

3 hours ago, tarheeltwinsfan said:

"Joe Hardy, Mr. Applegate, Lola". Can't you see? Don't you understand? This problem is much bigger than anything that any of you realize. Mr. Applegate (the Devil himself)) wants the Yankees to win, because they are inherently evil. In 1954 Joe Hardy out-smarted Mr. Applegate in the Broadway show; "Damn Yankees", resulting in Joe's team, the lowly Washington Senators, beating the Yankees for the pennant. As a result, the Devil was humiliated on the grand Broadway stage and he remains mad at the Senators/Twins and causes errors by the Senators/Twins, poor hitting by the Senators/Twins and poor pitching by the Senators/Twins as revenge for the Senators' victory 70 years ago in that musical. Until the Twins produce another Joe Hardy, to permanently break this evil spell, there will be tribulations for the "Minnesota Nice" Minnesota Twins whenever they play the "Evil Empire" New York Yankees.  I thought Harmon was the one to do it, then there was Tony and then Joe, but Mr. Applegate prevailed. Now Royce and Walker are next. It is Good vs. Evil. The eternal struggle of mankind.  (Sorry, I got a little carried away...I hate the damn Yankees !)  

LOL! Very well put, I love it! Our answer is Joe Hardy. Lewis can be our Joe Hardy. From '65-'69 the Twins won series 13-5, 8-10, 12-6, 12-6, 10-2. Never saw the play, need to see the movie if there was one.

1 hour ago, Doctor Gast said:

LOL! Very well put, I love it! Our answer is Joe Hardy. From '65-'69 the Twins won series 13-5, 8-10, 12-6, 12-6, 10-2. Never saw the play, need to see the movie if there was one.

Come to think of it, it's a musical isn't it? Not crazy about musicals but I might make an exception.

7 hours ago, Doctor Gast said:

LOL! Very well put, I love it! Our answer is Joe Hardy. Lewis can be our Joe Hardy. From '65-'69 the Twins won series 13-5, 8-10, 12-6, 12-6, 10-2. Never saw the play, need to see the movie if there was one.

There is a great movie, which features the song, "You've Gotta Have Heart" and "Whatever Lola Wants, Lola Gets" and "Shoeless Joe from Hannibal, Mo". The musical story is based on a novel titled: "The Year the Yankees Lost the Pennant".

9 hours ago, tarheeltwinsfan said:

There is a great movie, which features the song, "You've Gotta Have Heart" and "Whatever Lola Wants, Lola Gets" and "Shoeless Joe from Hannibal, Mo". The musical story is based on a novel titled: "The Year the Yankees Lost the Pennant".

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the Twins beat the NYY for the pennant or at least knock them out

My thought is the biggest, single reason for the Yankees dominance over the years of the Twins is player payroll.  They can afford much higher player payroll because their sources of revenue, especially local media are higher.  The higher payroll allows them an edge in acquiring player talent.  Which gives them the edge in winning in the long run.

One thing I noticed is the Yankees take professional at-bats. With two strikes they don't seem to worry about launch angle or mph off the bat. The sit back and wait to hit a pitch in the zone and put it in play. Whereas the Twins batters seem to want a 6 run HR with every swing, no matter the count. In my opinion that's pressing. Pressing is never good as a batter.