D.C Twins
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Though this off season has slowly transitioned from sad and depressing to predictable and mildly comical.... so there's that!
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The Twins should desperately try not to find themselves in anything close to the same situation next off season. They have 2.5 starters now which will be 1.5 next off season after Odo leaves....so....
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....if they were willing to part with their precious top prospects... which they are not...soooooooo.... next question.....
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My official, highly researched,advanced metrics based response..... Booooooooriiiiiiiiiing
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A lot more than the current FO or ownership is apparently willing to give up and....spoiler alert!.....what I'm willing to give up doesn't matter
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I think the desire is for Berrios to elevate to the level of going toe to toe with an opposing elite pitcher in game 1 of the playoffs. That would be huge
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***sigh**** ****deep breath**** ****exhale**** ***slow shaking of head*** ****move to type an opinion***** *****realize it doesn't really matter at this point which one they choose**** ****sign off****
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Front Page: Can the Twins Fix Royce Lewis’s Swing?
D.C Twins replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I think both takes have merit. The concern is real. He struggled for an entire season in A ball and that swing MOST LIKELY will not provide sustained success in the MLB. But he IS young, extremely athletic even among other athletes and has a superior attitude and competitive drive, so the ability to adjust should be high. Overall, I don't think we have a future all star on our hands, but I cannot wait to be proven wrong -
Oh and Dantes929, the '91 Twins literally DID "go from worst to first by signing an aging pitcher coming off two mediocre years" They signed a 36 y/o Jack Morris in fact who had actually come off exactly two mediocre (or just bad) years with ERA+ OF 79 and 89. Kevin M took a chance because, you know, he wanted to actually win the WS and not get pantsed in the playoffs
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And again, for everyone keeping track at home, we had a shut down starting pitcher and reliever (or two if you count Senior Smoke in '87) when we won BOTH world series. We have neither (and no Rodgers is not there yet due to his lack of durability in back to backs) Yes these things matter if we have hope of a WS...
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Well....the 87 team had this ACE called Frank Viola and then they TRADED their ACE for a #2/3 in Kevin Tapani as well as a shut down closer in Rick Aguilera (sp?) and then SIGNED a replacement ACE called Jack Morris. So in summary they used creative ways to improve their pitching through TRADES and FREE AGENCY (I don't recall Minnesota having a bigger payroll OR being more of a destination location then) So thanks for reminding us all that big things CAN be accomplished with creativity and a little intestinal fortitude even in a small market team!
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Just wanted to make sure people read this again
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All good points. I happen to think that Chicago will be dangerous next year and even more so in the three years following making our 'window' smaller than is generally advertised. And they are shaping up to have legit starting pitching. In addition, I think Odo regresses a bit this year, Berrios has peaked out, and Pineda was indeed masking PEDs with diuretics and will suffer a bit for the lack of PEDs next year (remember that PEDs for pitchers are mainly to aid recovery so he might tail off toward the end of next year) I also think our lack of depth in EXPERIENCED SP will be exposed by more of an injury bug this year (overall we were pretty fortunate last year). These are all just opinions of course...but why I have us settling out in the 87-92 win range
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Outstanding Post! Thank you for making me laugh (and hard)
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Sure we could sign him....he may just bump us from a wildcard game loss to divisional series loss. We need lots more quality starting pitching. Our offense is pretty deep and could sustain a regular amount of seasonal injuries. Just imagine what happens if Odo or Berrios even gets dinged up a bit and misses even a month....YIKES
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Absolutely OK with this but it means that the FO will have to "overpay" with their coveted prospects (at least 2 of their top 5 in addition to others) to get an impact arm. As I've said before, the FO deserves ALOT of credit for thier drafting, player development and coaching choices. BUT, obtaining impact pitching from outside the organization requires either an "overpay" of money or or an "overpay" in prospects. This FO and ownership have yet to demonstrate the intestinal fortitude to do either. Risk will need to be taken unless our desire is to languish in mild to moderate competitiveness...
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Boy there is a lot of positive spin going on right now from TD writers for a team that is currently about the same as last year minus Gibson with all signs pointing toward ending up with one additional starting pitcher equal to Gibson or worse. Not only will this not fly in the playoffs, this team as constructed is more likely to win <90 games than >100 games. The past two years represented the the opposite ends of the spectrum of the expected win range entering the season. We are likely to find the middle ground of 87-92 wins this year as currently constructed with a wildcard game loss to a team that has a legit ACE.
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Front Page: Let's Talk About Willians Astudillo
D.C Twins replied to Matt Braun's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
Well said...I agree with everything....and yet I look back at his picture and imagine him running the bases and I just can't stop smiling....so I really have no chance of a rational opinion- 43 replies
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Um, the FO left themselves in position to have Berrios y nada entering the off season. Um, We are now essentially sitting with the same team that got absolutely steam rolled in the playoffs minus Gibson with an at best even swap at backup catcher. Uh, A chief rival added an absolute stud to their rotation. Um, they misread the market early and failed to sign a second level pitcher before all the losers of the first level entered the competition to drive up prices. So, um, uh, yeah, based on the goal of winning a WS, this off season is is a failure to date so far, albeit with a little time left on the clock for a hail marry signing. If the goal is a 90 +/- 5 win team that gets pantsed in the 1st round of the playoffs.... then they are absolutely crushing it!
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Me thinks the price for Bumgarner just went up with the 245mil check that D.C just cut....we've waited too long to make moves....again....
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Agreed. Great signing for that price....Essentially no downside But if he "emerges as a No. 2 or even No. 1 caliber piece in the rotation" for the post season....we can anticipate very similar results to last year (perhaps even worse if NY and Boston improve their starting rotation). A team loaded with #3/4s and one #2 can do wonders in the regular season, but alas, not the post season. Currently we would be depending on one or two of our 3 starting pitcher prospects to go Full Liriano or Santana this year to provide any hope of making a post season dent.
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In Rockville!
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In a somewhat related story they also plan on extending their record setting streak of not having a playoff worthy SP rotation..... ...What?! Too soon?
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......with visions of SP rotations packed with #3/4 starters, 90 win seasons, and 1st round playoff losses dancing through my head
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"We are in on everyone! We just missed!" Yaaaaawwwwwwwn.....(click)......I've seen this movie before too many times (it's too predictable and the payoff at the end isn't great)....I'm going to bed.
