This is where you and I differ. I think folks forget a lot of the bad. We had Odorizzi for three seasons and he amassed 5 WAR. That's not a great return on 33.5. Maeda had 11 starts that everyone raves about but ignores that he has given us 2 WAR in 32 starts. That's fine but that's a back end starter. Sonny Gray, one year, 2.5 WAR. Mahle, injured. Alcala will be 27 next year and in four seasons hasn't amassed 1 WAR. Duran is a nice arm, very happy. And Ryan is a back-end starter. Good trade,
But you also left off quite a bit - Lance Lynn, Addison Reed (17m!), Sam Dyson, Martin Perez, Dylan Bundy, Joe Smith, Chris Archer, Jamie Garcia (for Ynoa), Pineda (three years were slightly less valuable than three years of Odo), Happ (8m), Bailey (7m), Shoemaker. Honestly, I'm not sure if you add up the value of the pitchers we signed/traded for under this FO if it would be A) a positive number or 2) higher than the value of players we've just released or traded away to get those crappy pitchers.
People aren't recognizing how bad pitching has been under this FO. fWAR ranks over the last ten years:
2013 - 24th
2014 - 14th
2015 - 11th
2016 - 23rd
2017 - 24th
2018 - 22nd
2019 - 4th
2020 - COVID
2021 - 25th
2022 - 20th - and this staff had Gray, Ryan, Duran, Alcala and Mahle on it.
bWAR are probably pretty similar but slightly worse, That list doesn't suggest that this FO can put together a pitching staff. If I put in WAR values, it actually looks worse. For example, the 2016 and 2022 teams amassed the same WAR - 10.7 but, by ranking, you'd think 2022 staff was better.