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Interesting part of the bill that no one has really talked about that I have seen, until here. I agree, not sure how taking money away from owners would cause them to want to reduce ticket prices. I think it they are really trying to do is decrease the contracts players are getting because owners will now have to tell the players well we are now paying more in taxes and the money we used to pay you cut against our taxes, so to make up for that we either need to raise ticket prices or pay you less. If that part of the bill is finalized by Senate all the next CBA's will be very interesting.
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There are differences, rather slight, but they are not the same pitch. The splitter is normally held on laces on the finger tips. This will produce more spin with slightly more control. The fork ball is not held on the laces and will have much less spin, more similar to a knuckle ball. The screw ball is held more like a curve ball or slider, but you snap the arm the opposite way it is normally done, causing the break to opposite way a curve or slider normally would.
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I fully agree, you get so much info and break it down to the littlest things sometimes you start overthinking everything. Should my foot be here, or there, should my hands be half an inch lower. Yes, there has always been the tried and true things, but if baseball has taught people anything over the years, there is no 100% right way to do something. We have seen crazy stances make great results, then we would see guys like Ripken Jr. coming up with new stance every year it would seem. We would hear the sage advice of find a good pitch to hit and not miss it. I remember for years Buck would be told a new way to hit and he would struggle then say I am going back to what worked for me my whole life. I have not heard much about changes he has made lately, but it seems like we adjust the young hitters saying if you do not fix this issue you will fail, but then you are asking to change something that is so ingrained in their mind at the smallest adjustments. This can be hard to do.
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I sure hope they call Wallner back up this weekend. Not sure what more they want to see him being ready to come back up.
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His K-rate at AAA right now is like 25% it was worse at MLB before injury. It was worse last year. Yes, it is only 5 games and 23 PA so just a few games can swing that, but how is a K-Rate lower than it has been his whole career in his very SSS in AAA "back to where it should not be"?
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Should Fans have excitement for Aaron Sabato?
Trov replied to Trov's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I would argue that McCusker has not continued to grow, but has an amazing SSS in AAA that fans for some reason think will be more than that. That is the point I am trying to make. I am not big on either. I do not expect either do much if anything at MLB level. I pointing out that because McCusker was undrafted took 2 years in independent ball to hit, then took 2 years in our minors to have a hot 38 games. I am trying to bring this to the attention that we give more praise to a guy who as you point out seems to be growing, where a guy like Sabato failed right away and slowly grew but his expectations were that they would be better out the gate. Both had similar numbers at similar level at similar age, but the path both got there are different so we view them different. -
Should Fans have excitement for Aaron Sabato?
Trov replied to Trov's topic in Twins Minor League Talk
I am comparing their same age season at same level. I pointed out that McCusker was hitting better at AAA this year than he did last year, but the league the Saints are in are known to be a hitters league. What I was pointing out is that fans have been big on a guy at age 27 finally hitting like crazy, some were talking about him last year I recall, but Sabato is doing slightly better than what McCusker did last year same age. Of course, Sabato would have to hit at AAA too. I also wanted to point what some comments brought up, Sabato was a first round pick that might finally be doing okay at age 26 and we say he is not MLB worthy, but he is doing what McCusker did same age same level. -
I am sure most will see the question and say loudly NO! However, I only ask because I read so many fans saying lets give McCusker a chance. Many are upset he is getting little run on his call up. Yes, McCusker has been crushing at AAA this season, but last year at AA in his age 26 season he slashed .281/.357/.489 with a HR every 28 plate appearances and a K-rate around 30%. Sabato at his age 26 season in AA so far this year is slashing .293/.398/.478 with a HR every 27 plate appearances and a K-rate around 30%. So I ask again, should we have some excitement for these numbers of Sabato? If he comes up to AAA, a well known hitter league, and put up similar numbers still to McCusker do we change our toon on him? Or because he was drafted high and never did well enough to warrant a call up soured us, but when McCusker the undrafted guy that moved up to AAA and doing well there mean we believe he has a shot? Personally, I say no we should not be, maybe if he moves up to AAA and crushes we can give him a shot at 1B, but my main point is we are upset McCusker is not getting more time but someone like Sabato in similar situation we would never want to see given a shot.
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I never said I was mad at the manager, I was pointing out that is how Rocco has always managed. Many fans want to see guys with big numbers in the minors to be given a chance at the majors, but there is plenty of times they do not, and normally there is a reason for that.
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This is nothing new with Rocco. He has never just given a guy at bats to give them a shot. He has always put who he feels gives him the best shot to win. Even late last season many were calling for giving Kerisay a shot, not that September numbers mean anything, but he did not get thrown out over and over, but Rocco kept doing what he does. It was clear the Twins do not have a ton of fait in McCusker but it was his turn to get called up. I believe the team looks a lot more about how a guy does in BP, and his minor league at bats than just his output. As many point out on here, just because someone is hitting well does not mean that is sustainable. How much of the SSS is luck? When you swing and miss as much as McCusker does at AAA how much worse will it be at MLB? Now, I agree you can give him a few full games and see what he looks like at MLB level. Clemons has never been a good MLB player, just average bench guy. He is on a crazy hot streak so ride it out. Now talking about trusting him over McCusker is not really something to compare as one is OF and one is IF.
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I actually feel McKusker will get very little chance to show he can stick at MLB level. He will play against lefties, but outside of that, Keirsay will play against righties, Larnach and Bader will have the other 2 OF spots. Could McKusker get a chance at DH maybe, but we have seen Rocco not play a guy just because he is up and we want to see him, Rocco plays who he thinks will give him best chance to win. There has been many times we wanted to see someone get a shot only to ride the bench for a few games and then back down when someone comes of IL.
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What I got out of the article is if he can make contact and hit the ball hard he will be fine, but his ability to hit the ball at this level will be in question. When he hits the ball it generally is hard. So see ball, hit ball, swing hard, sounds good.
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His AAA have been decent this year. ERA a little skewed because his runs he gave up are 5 more than earned runs, which without looking the unearned may be more his fault. I will not go into my issue with earned runs rule. Either way his WHIP is respectable with nice K rate. Walk rate still a little high. However, clearly he is not ready for MLB pitching. Still has nice K rate, but his walking guys at an insane rate in his 2 games 8 walks in 5.1 innings to just 7 strike outs. He is giving up even more hits, 13 over the 5.1 innings. He is still young, got a taste of what he needs to work on. I would not call him a bust for Reds yet, as his AAA have been decent, but he is not displaying top prospect or ace type qualities. Such is the risk with high school guys, they are so hard to project.
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Fleeced in the trade for Lopez? Why do you say that? Yes, Lopez was terrible for use with little help. Cano had 1 great year in 2023, an okay year last year, but so far a bad year this year. Povich has been below replacement starter. The other 2 have not made the majors. I would say yeah we did not do great in the trade, but if you look at this year the 2 MLB players we gave up we would not even have on our roster right now. Everyone of our starters have had more value than Povich, and doubt he would even be on our 40 man, most likely lost to a rule 5 at some point or waiver pick up. Only Jax has been as bad as Cano, but has been much better lately.
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I was thinking about how people had been big on Carson McCusker, even coming into the season, but now some are really big on him due to his hot start in AAA. He was an undrafted guy, after a pretty average college career and summer leagues. His first 2 years in independent ball was okay, again nothing crazy. Then at age 25 he is on fire independent league, leading to the signing of the Twins. He did fine moving up the leagues and was decent, but nothing crazy in A and AA. Then age 26 he has a decent time at AA and moves up to AAA. Now age 27 season he is crushing AAA causing many to call for him coming up expecting him to hit like that at MLB. He is now on TD 19th prospect. This is not a forum on McCusker and if he deserves to be on the list, but he is rising up the prospect list, because at age 27 he is starting to really show some talent. Now I want to look at someone else, I will not name him, as I am not saying he should be on a prospect list or anything, but want to compare his history and how people view him versus someone like McCusker. This guy crushed in college with over 1.100 OPS in his college time. McCusker was under .900 OPS in college. The second guy had more HR in 2 years in college than McCusker did in 4. The second guy was drafted high in draft, unlike McCusker being undrafted. The second guy was put on prospect list right away, he is now off it after spending several years in minors putting up OPS around .750 ish. He is putting up similar numbers to McCusker did in AA at age 26 season, .852 OPS. McCusker OPS was .848. I believe that even if the second guy finishes the year similar to McCusker and gets to AAA and starts off as hot as McCusker anyone will want to move him back into prospect lists, and will not be pushing to a call up, but still call the second guy a bust. The point I am trying to make is how if a guy is expected to be good, but struggles early, we write them off, even if they turn it around, but if they start off not good and becomes good later on we have hope they will be a diamond in the rough. Two players at similar age putting up similar numbers, I could do deeper in them just used OPS as a general, but they are all pretty close, but two different views in how fans think of them as possible prospects. Yes, player two would need to build off what is going on similar to McCusker, but if he does I still doubt fans will be high on him. The reverse though is true. If a guy like McCusker would have been drafted, maybe would have in the old 50 rounds, but if he did not do well after a year or two he would have been cut having to go independent ball route and until he tears it up like he did he would get no second chance. Where guy number two because of his draft status and his college number he is given several years of trying to figure it out.
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Being sent down is not the end of a career. Sure, the returns have not been great, but assuming we would not have resigned Berrios, we would not have got anything in return anyways. Also, he has not been amazing or anything. He had a terrible 2022. His last 2 years were good but not ace level or anything. Last year Berrios was better than SWR, but not by a ton. SWR still young, could continue to grow. Could we have looked to move Berrios somewhere else and got a better deal, most likely, but do not act like we gave up a HOF pitcher or anything.
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I honestly would say if you address number 1 then 3 and 4 will fix themselves. I would not know if the increase in velo is leading to less control, it would make some sense. If you are not a super fast guy, having great control is better. Mixing up locations, and keeping the hitters guessing helps. However, if you are falling behind, missing your spots you need to start grooving pitches allowing the hitters to tee off.
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Okay, I think we are going a little overboard on Keaschall in this article. Yes, he came up and was great in his 19 ab, but it was 19. To talk about how we need to hold things together until his arm heals because he is some driving force is crazy. It was 19 AB. I remember Brooks Lee last year in his first few games was on a tear, only to become unplayable for times.
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To say a team is failing to draft and develop players because the drafted WAR is not 50% is crazy. I agree that you cannot build your team through just FA, and the Twins have not done that. Much of their team is done through trades and drafting. On the current roster, about half were drafted by the team. However, that does not mean the rest were FA. Many were from trades when they were in the minors. In our pitchers on the current roster. Ober, Varland, Sands, and Jax were only ones we drafted. However, Ryan, SWR, Alcala, Duran, were guys traded for as minor league guys and developed in our system. Lopez, Paddock, and Topa were all traded as MLB guys, using players developed by the Twins. Specifically, Arraez, Rodgers, and Polanco, all of which trades have been decent for team. In terms of hitters similar about half were drafted by the team. There are a few that came in FA, but outside of CC none were major FA signings. Castro was a DFA guy they unlocked to be a valuable player. I am not saying Falvey is perfect, but judging a GM just by drafts is a terrible way to judge. They should be judged by the team they build, and if you can continue to have guys ready to fill in that is a good thing. You will never find a single GM that hits on every draft. Sometimes using those picks to help the current roster is good.
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As a long time fan, going back to the TK days, I firmly believe knowing to hit the ball well the other way is very important to have success in the majors. I know many believe that pulling the ball for power is the best way to help the team the most. However, if you are dead pull all the time, that leaves large holes in your swing. I am not saying guys with power should look to slap the ball often. You can still drive oppo with power if you work on it. This makes the outside part of the plate not a dead zone. It also helps you not chase inside pitches off the plate, because you finally got an inside pitch after taking so many strikes away. Just showing a pitcher, and defense you can hit the ball the other way keeps them honest. I remember when Papi left he talked about how TK wanted him to hit the other way. Then in Boston after he got his chance he was well known for hitting the ball over or off the green monster for many hits in his career. Yes, he hit higher percentage to pull side, but without his ability to hit to left I would bet his numbers would have been much worse. If you have a plan to drive the ball the other way because you expect a pitch to do it on, you can pick up a lot of hits. Then you show you cannot just get a free easy pitch for strike out there, and get the pitcher to try to get you inside more, right in your power zone.
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It is hard to evaluate WAR to money paid. It is also hard to say early returns will pay full seasons dividends. It is possible France falls flat later in year, or Bader comes just a glove, unlikely that fades. We have seen pen guys falling apart. I am happy with what each has given, based on the money paid. However, what gets frustrating at times, is that I feel GM's see those as huge wins for the themselves, the look what I got for this price, I saw something no one else did. That is something we ran into with Ryan. Sure, the owners may be handcuffing the spending, but it leads to the owners saying well you did it before do it again. We have seen the bargain bin shopping fail many times. Yes, sometimes you get a good deal. Is France one of the best 1st base for the price yes. If we had more could we have gone out to sign someone else, that would be better overall, most likely. I personally wish we could have gone internal option, but sadly we have no 1st base guys ready to come up.
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I personally am not huge on McCusker. He is about to be 27 and not made MLB yet. He strikes out at a very high rate, which is expected with a power hitter like he is showing. Yes, some guys can be late bloomers, but many times they have some expected upside to give them the time to develop. Two guys came to mind just based on their a little later call ups, and one really did not thrive until around 30. Now, I am not saying he will be either, as I said I am not big on him. However, Nelson Cruz was a guy that was not called up until 25, but he really did not become a regular MLB player until he was 28. He was up and down, not doing much for a few years. After he hit 30 he took off HR wise and was a reliable DH for a decade plus. Some will say this comp is crazy, but Aaron Judge really was a call up at 25, and just took off though. He was a 31 on top 100 list that year. His minor league numbers were similar to McCusker. I do not think people expect Judge to become what he did, I think playing in NY has helped with that short porch in RF. Judge was viewed by many as a top guy, maybe not MVP out the gate. Buck was number 2 prospect same year Judge was number 31 fyi. Point is, McCusker being 27 does not take him off the chance of having an MLB career for years, and he could take off right away, it has happened. I just would not be sold on it for him. I do think if he continues to hit like he is he will force a call up.
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I remember seeing a ton of articles the last couple years about the need to call up a different prospect. He was a guy that hit very well in AAA, was an older prospect, but fans kept saying give him a shot, over and over. He finally was given some level of a shot, not regular at bats, but he may have shown why he was not given a shot at MLB. I would guess that the team has some serious concerns about McCusker at MLB level. His K-rate is very concerning. When you look at production in minors, it is hard to not look at the overall numbers and think that will translate to MLB. However, sometimes they are feasting on bad pitches, but do not have great at bats, and just making poor minor league pitching, but when they face MLB prospects at AAA they struggle. I am not saying McCusker will not have some success, and maybe he should get a shot at 1B or DH. However, right now Lewis will be filling DH most likely, or rotating several guys through the DH. Ty France has not been great by any stretch, but he has been average. McCusker move would say we expect he will be better than average.
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Jenkins has had a ton of injuries in his career. The fact that an ankle sprain will take 2 full months from him is concerning to his ability to stay healthy and return from those injuries. It clearly must have been a serious sprain and I know they can linger, but he has had several other injuries in his minor league career. Might be another of the well if he can only stay healthy type guy for us and we keep wishing for health only to miss months of a season with brief moments of hot stretches.
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