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The number of pitchers who have consistently done it over the last 3 years is about 9. This is the reason it is so hard to find pitching in the trade market. They do not exist. A team needs to identify a pitcher on another team that with a little boost can be that pitcher and have something the other team needs or wants. They got lucky last year, unlucky the year before with acquisitions.

I would say that the baseball players union would fight tooth and nail against any NBA styled salary cap. The disparity between the top 8 revenue teams and the bottom 22 are so significantly different that it prevents any change. There was not that difference in football

The Scherzer trade busted. Lucky for Texas they got two starters. They gave up decent prospects, but not great ones. The secret formula is not all that hard to figure out but is difficult to accomplish. Identifying talent in the late first round is key. High ceiling prospects in the later rounds that flourish in the low minors in the later rounds for trade bait. That means you have to have good low minors development teams That is what Texas traded for Montgomery. Get lucky in the Internationals. This FO has not been good with the late first round picks. If you need to build through trades you need to look at who your trade partners are and see what they covet. Personal opinion is you need the high ceiling player more than the high floor players for the playoffs. Jung was hot for the first two rounds. There are a lot of playoff MVPs were meh players who got hot at the right time. I also think the mid market teams need the 6/7 starter in AAA to be coming up to spell the starters. In planning workloads for the season the teams need to incorporate the games of the post season. The Twins might have gotten more out of Ryan and Ober in the playoffs that way

The reason they are signing the middle of the road free agents to one year contracts is that they viewed their internal options were not adequate. The Twins at one point had 4 players with high upside when the contracts were signed. Sano, Polanco, Kepler and Buxton. What could possibly go wrong has been demonstrated. changing revenue sharing. Low hanging fruit argument that again ignores reality of the vote that would be needed to change it.

But you still have no solution that fits the parameters of what the Twins are. Therefore you come across as a complainer

Pitch count per pitcher may well be what the Twins use to determine how long a pitcher pitches. Total batters faced would show that they get through part of a lineup a third time. Lopez averaged 24, Grey 23, Ober and Ryan 22.. you can put the myth that they will only go twice through a lineup where it belongs

Brent Rooker and Luke Raley each had a career year last year. Time will tell if they are solid hitters or not. They were not the couple years before last year after the Twins traded them. The Twins under this regime has had 8 second round draft picks. Only Jeffers has worked so far. Deron Johnson did not have any better luck before. That Beeter may be in the Yankee starting rotation really doesn’t mean a whole lot. He is still a prospect. Win or lose a trade. The trade looks bad as the Twins only git the short season and a little bit last year out of Maeda. Graterol would have helped the bullpen. Then there is the curse of being a Twins pitcher and Graterol’s shoulder would have went out sooner than later and the Twins would have still had the same production.

Luis Arraez wasn’t expected to turn into Luis Arraez.

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To calibrate a bit you need to include the playoff pitching in your plans You also should be including that in your season totals

The season is long. Too any pitches who probably can’t pitch 200 innings. So, if you do not want gassed pitchers in the playoffs, they need the 5th starter to open the season. There is always the bullpen game if you have more quality bullpen arms

So you want the Pohlads to have more money. It is be an _________________ about money for athletes week because somebodies good fortune wasn’t yours

My, have you lived a charmed life. You are so lucky

By results so far what they have drafted for college arms in the high rounds would indicate they have to try something different.

Last year Brooks played in 125 games. The year before it was 88. Maybe he learned he had to get in better shape as his performance tailed off at the end of the year.

Some people have a notion that age impacts talent. That is why they make such a big deal of comparative age to level of play.

If Bref had service tie for all players it would have been used. They only list it for active mlb players

Maybe they approached him after the first season here and he said no. Can’t make them sign

You have never dealt with something like pain for 2 years have you?

Other than Berrios what pitcher would have been worth signing ? It is not the least bit weird

What is charmed about rupturing a tendon and basically losing your career at this point?

Several years ago there were a couple of articles that stated if your prospect wasn’t in the top 20 the chances of them being a good ajar league player were sli. The internet being what it is, I can’t find the again. People get excited about rankings so I did some looking.. MLB.com is the quoted source most often so I used their ranking for the 2013-2017 rankings. It is also free to look at. Ito evaluate success or not, I used WAR. That is generally accepted as a decent measure of play. Fangraphs says that a 2 WAR player is a solid starter, 3 WAR a good player, 4 or ore have superlatives attached. The numbers. 4 is an all star level. The other studies considered only the player’s play up until free agency. That is the accumulated WAR total I used. I did not add or subtract a pitcher’s WAR for batting. In consideration that the 2020 season was involved for most of the players I defined a Star at accumulating 20 WAR,, Good 15, Solid 10. For pitchers I dropped it down to 9. The explanation will come later. The WAR totals are from Baseball Reference as it was easier to double check the ranking and service tie. The patterns for pitchers vers hitters are distinctly different. The results will be posted that way. For the players that had not completed 3 years of service tie and still on the way up, I did not include them I did not include Ohtani as he was not developed in the minor leagues. I did not include Oscar Tavares because he did not have a chance to play more than one year The dismal first. Pitching 132 were ranked at some point in their minor league career. 2 pitchers were at the All Star level 12 were at the solid starter level 18 were solid starters 59 did not even accumulate 9 WAR 18 dropped out of the rankings and none accumulated enough WAR 10 never made it to the big leagues 13 were given incomplete data 13 pitchers had final rankings in the top 20. 3 rated as good, 6 as solid, 4 as not so good. 22 pitchers were ranked between 21 and 50 Gerrit Cole, 3 good starters, 3 solid starters 15 as not so goods Over 20 missed time during their career, as this showed up as blank seasons. Shoulder and UCL repair was the culprit. That tmie for some was non productive in their service time. I looked up news articles on the.m The not so good pitchers were not all useless. I did not keep track of the number, I should have, but many were the ones developed as relievers. WAR is not a good ease for a solid or good reliever. I did not want to figure out what defines a solid reliever. Being that very few came up as relievers, I left it alone. Perhaps that would have made the solid pitcher number look better. I did not keep track of it but a lot of the solid pitchers turned in great seasons after season 6. Gausman comes to mind analysis of why these totals are so low for pitchers will require digging and crunching On average Fangraphs the last 3 years each year has 20 pitchers at 4 WAR or better, 20 as good, and 35 as solid. When you look at the 3 years in aggregate, the numbers drop to 9, 19 and 32. None of this really has anything to do with the rankings other than showing why the success rates do kind of reflect the rankings. 19 of the not so good prospects ended up as traded for solid to star players. To give you a little context, according to baseball reference over 750 pitchers made their professional debut between 2013and 2017 Among them and unranked by MLB.Com were.Tanner Roark,, Chris’s Bassit, Kyle Hendricks, Edwin Diaz, Sandy Alcantara, Jack Flarety, Jordan Montgomery, Shane Bieber. They missed a few solid to star pitchers The section on hitters will come later.

I didn’t think I needed to add that is a mighty big if. ERA in a relief pitcher with few innings is not the best judge of pitching talent. Tampa continually gets good seasons out of retreads and failures. The difference between a serviceable pitcher and not is not hat big

At a glance you could notice a decent strikeout rate coupled with a high HR rate. If the fix for the HR is better sequencing they might have something.

Hindsight was not needed to say that if they could have made a Sonny Grey type trade in 2021 they should have done so. If he had top of the order potential at that time he would have been highly ranked at the time, not in the low 90s