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You overlook the fact that makes it an apt comparison - he was out a full year after Tommy John surgery and was age 25 when they stuck him in the bullpen in 2023. Prielipp's delay in getting to the majors was not related to his lack of talent, it was related to injuries. Besides, I gave you almost a perfect comparison example in Soriano, and your response was basically 'give me more.' OK, how about Michael King? Pitched in 1 game at age 24, then was mostly a relief pitcher the next four years (114 games, 19 starts). Then, the last two years entirely a starting pitcher (and a good one).
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Except it's not that rare, and my sense is it will become more common. With lower pitch counts in the minors, bringing up a guy with great stuff and sending him out for 1-2 innings the first year(s) makes sense. Take Garrett Crochet - started as a relief pitcher, then was out a full year, came back the following year as a relief pitcher, and then two full years as a (very good) starting pitcher. There are plenty more examples if you look for them.
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How about Jose Soriano? In his first year in MLB (age 24) he was solely used as a relief pitcher. The next two years (2024 and 2025) he was solely a starting pitcher. That could be Prielipp.
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Agree on Culpepper. Fedko had an excellent break-out year, but he's 26. I'd take the under on him being selected by another team.
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Look up Seth Lugo, who hit the majors at age 26. 9.2 combined WAR the last three seasons as a starting pitcher between the ages of 33-35.
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The point wasn't to compare Santana to anybody in the Twins minor leagues (Santana was the best pitcher in baseball in his prime) rather, that you 'can' go back to starting, even if you enter MLB primarily as a relief pitcher. There are other examples from other teams as well.
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If you look back, most of the Twins closers were converted starting pitchers - Duran, Nathan, Aguilera, Perkins, Guardado, Hawkins, etc., etc.
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Seems logical/reasonable. It's worth recalling that in Johan Santana's first four years with the Twins, he appeared in 97 games but only 41 as a starting pitcher. It wasn't until year 5 that he became purely a starting pitcher (and won the Cy Young award).
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Twins Protect Six Minor League Players from Rule 5 Draft
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My guess is 5. Jeffers, 4. Keaschall, 3.Lopez, 2.Ryan, 1.Buxton.
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I'm not sure 'strong' is the word I would use to describe the Twins core. Inconsistent sounds closer to the mark. If you line up 2024 and 2025, Buxton is the only one who has put together two solid seasons, and even then, he missed 60 games in 2024 (but still put up a WAR of 3.6). Ryan had a great 2025 but missed much of 2024, Lopez was the opposite, great in 2024 but missed much of 2025. Ober battled injuries all year and had an ERA north of 5, Wallner's OPS was league average this year after a strong 2024, etc,, etc.
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I think they hold onto Wallner, who, even with an up and down season last year has a career OPS+ of 127. My guess is he ends up DHing a lot. Larnach, on the other hand, has a career OPS+ of 101, and 1 more HR than Wallner for his career - in 635 more ABs. Yes, trade him for something serviceable. Martin might be their best trade bait, as he definitely showed significant improvement, both in the OF and at the plate. I doubt either Outman or Roden will get you much of anything in trade at the moment.
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It's worth noting that both Brunansky and Gagne were acquired via trades. Bruno as part of a package from the Angels for Doug Corbett and Rob Wilfong, and Gagne with Ron Davis from the Yankees for Roy Smalley.
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MLB doesn't include Abel on the Twins top prospects list presumably because they consider him to have too much MLB experience. Their list has Kendry Rojas at #5 - and I'm at least as excited by him as by Abel, albeit with a bit less experience. It's been some time since the Twins had a solid left handed starting pitcher.
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Buxton likes batting lead-off, and you want to get him as many ABs as possible when he's in the lineup. If the R/L/R/L thing is important, you could go Buxton, Keaschall, Lewis, Jenkins, Jeffers, Rodriguez, Gonzalez, Lee, with a first baseman to be named later. In that line-up, one of the four OF would DH, probably Gonzalez. That is also a pretty good defensive outfield, and maybe Buxton moves to RF. Of course, putting all three AAA outfielders in the starting lineup is a stretch, but next year is likely to be a developmental year anyway.
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He and Lopez are the primary reasons the Twins have won a play-off series in the last 20 years.
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Agreed. Every time a player has a promising start but then fails to deliver over the long run, when is it on the player? Outman had a very strong start to his career - is it the Dodgers fault he hasn't lived up to it?
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The point of a lead off hitter is to get on base AND score runs. Arraez' gaudy stats are missing the most important component: runs scored. Here is how he has done with that - I already provided the stats for 2025. 2024: 83 runs (39th in MLB) in 637 Plate Appearances 2023: 71 runs (88th) in 574 PAs 2022: 88 runs (29th) in 547 PAs 2021: 58 runs (141st) in 479 PAs. Given that he doesn't hit the ball hard or over the fence, what exactly does he do other than pile up singles for a high batting average?
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Last year's OBP for Arraez was ,327, 82nd in MLB, and the same as Byron Buxton. The problem with Arraez is he mostly hits singles, and he is slow - he clogs up the bases. Buxton, in 488 plate appearances last year, scored 97 runs. Arraez, in 620 plate appearances, scored 66 - which was 102nd in MLB. He is not a prototypical lead-off hitter (get on base AND score runs) and he certainly isn't a prototypical first baseman (low OPS, few home runs).
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The negativity on this board - you all need to find things that bring joy into your life. I like baseball - it's a beautiful game, but it is a game. Really, does the result of a Twins game or a season define you? Is it really that important? Living in Iowa, I know lots of Cubs fans - now those are fans! They hadn't tasted a World Series or a win for a lifetime! Yet they kept rooting and believing, and finally it happened. Good for them! Most of you are baseball crybabies, and I'm sick of it. I will not return. I will love baseball, and the Twins, though - and hope maybe some of you might do the same.
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Can't argue with that - of course, you have just defeated your own argument. In policy debate, they call that a turnaround.
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