Doug Mientkiewicz.

[luckylager]

It is not accepted. That is why there will be suspensions handed down by the league. In competitive situations emotions run high. People do irrational things. There are sanctions. What do you want to see happen?

[Boom Boom]

It is not accepted. That is why there will be suspensions handed down by the league. In competitive situations emotions run high. People do irrational things. There are sanctions. What do you want to see happen?

 

I want zero tolerance for this kind of behavior.

 

Most jobs are competitive. This shouldn't be brushed aside because it's pro sports.

[luckylager]

I want zero tolerance for this kind of behavior.

 

Most jobs are competitive. This shouldn't be brushed aside because it's pro sports.

 

Yeah. Good luck.

[Willihammer]

I do find it amusing how indignant people can get over a friendly little wrassle in a competitive setting. These guys are out of control!

[Steven Buhr]

It is not accepted. That is why there will be suspensions handed down by the league. In competitive situations emotions run high. People do irrational things. There are sanctions. What do you want to see happen?

 

Interestingly (and, to me, surprisingly) there were no suspensions handed down by the league. Only fines of undisclosed amounts.

[TheLeviathan]

I do find it amusing how indignant people can get over a friendly little wrassle in a competitive setting. These guys are out of control!

 

If they were genuinely tough and competitive they wouldn't have been so offended by a homeplate collision.

[Mike Sixel]

It is not accepted. That is why there will be suspensions handed down by the league. In competitive situations emotions run high. People do irrational things. There are sanctions. What do you want to see happen?

 

I want it not to be done at all.......

 

The best way to think about stuff like this......if baseball started today, would they start fighting, or would it not be tolerated at all? I am pretty sure it would not be tolerated at all.

[Craig Arko]

Apparently this ne'er do well was just named Manager of the Year in the FSL.

[DaveW]

I want it not to be done at all.......

 

The best way to think about stuff like this......if baseball started today, would they start fighting, or would it not be tolerated at all? I am pretty sure it would not be tolerated at all.

Yes, clearly all the sports since baseball was created included no fighting.

UFC for instance which was popularized within the past decade includes no such violence.

 

Also, a manager tackling another manager is hardly "fighting", if it bothers you so much, simply don't watch. It's actually pretty darn rare for a baseball player (or manager) to actually connect a punch to another player or manager.

 

 

A bit off topic, but something that bugs the hell out of me:

Some other sports are wayyyyy to PC these days, I have heard about T-ball, Coach Pitch, basketball and soccer leagues for younger kids that don't even keep score these days...do you think that is the way to raise kids and teach them sports? That there is no such thing as a winner and a loser. That everybody at the end of a day is a "winner" and that you should never try to improve yourself/team? Seems like a terrible way to fail to teach youngsters about failure and how to deal with/overcome it later in life. Ditto with all the extreme anti-bullying crap going on, I get that bad bullying has no place, but to protect kids from adversity at all costs is not going to benefit them in the long run.

 

/end rant

//Dougie M for MOY!!!!

[Mr. Brooks]

Apparently this ne'er do well was just named Manager of the Year in the FSL.

 

I don't think anyone is arguing that he's not a good manager.

[Mr. Brooks]

Yes, clearly all the sports since baseball was created included no fighting.

UFC for instance which was popularized within the past decade includes no such violence.

 

Also, a manager tackling another manager is hardly "fighting", if it bothers you so much, simply don't watch. It's actually pretty darn rare for a baseball player (or manager) to actually connect a punch to another player or manager.

 

 

A bit off topic, but something that bugs the hell out of me:

Some other sports are wayyyyy to PC these days, I have heard about T-ball, Coach Pitch, basketball and soccer leagues for younger kids that don't even keep score these days...do you think that is the way to raise kids and teach them sports? That there is no such thing as a winner and a loser. That everybody at the end of a day is a "winner" and that you should never try to improve yourself/team? Seems like a terrible way to fail to teach youngsters about failure and how to deal with/overcome it later in life. Ditto with all the extreme anti-bullying crap going on, I get that bad bullying has no place, but to protect kids from adversity at all costs is not going to benefit them in the long run.

 

/end rant

//Dougie M for MOY!!!!

 

 

Bullying is not constructive adversity.

I'd be curious of an example of what you consider to be "extreme anti bullying"?

I'd also be curious of an example of an acceptable level of bullying?

 

I agree that kids need to face all kinds of constructive adversity.

I agree on your point about the leagues that don't keep score. That is absurd. There is nothing wrong with teaching kids to be competitive, and that games and sports have winners and losers. It is important to teach kids as early as possible how to be a good winner and to keep from being a poor sport when they lose, which you can't do if you don't keep score.

 

But bullying is a completely different thing. There is nothing positive that can be learned from bullying. There is no constructive life lesson that a kid can take away from being tormented, assulted, or humiliated on an ongoing basis.

 

There are all kinds of major issues in America that can probably be traced in some way back to bullying. Kids are like sponges, they soak up everything. All bullying does is teach the bully that they can take advantage of the weak, something that many will carry into adulthood (which causes obvious problems in society), and causes resentment, isolation, and paranoia to form in the developing brain of the kid being bullied (which also causes quite obvious societal problems.)

 

I agree that kids are treated far too softly these days in many instances, but frankly this anti bullying campaign is definitely not one of them.

[Kobs]

This violence talk makes it seemed like Mientkiewicz knifed him or something. There wasn't even a punch thrown.

 

He should have stabbed him. Perhaps the entire opposing roster. See if anyone tries to go through a Miracle catcher ever again. If I were a Miracle player, I would be pretty scared out there knowing that all my manager will do if I were in danger is attack the oldest guy on the field and then get manhandled.